Advice after a bad day
 

Well i went flying my World Models Groovy 50 3a today. It is a tail dragger. I was haven a blast doing some loops, ke, and hovering. I decided to make a highspeed pass and realized that i was missing my left main landing gear. I got very nervious. I had never done a 1 wheel landing before. Some guys at the field tried to walk me throught it. I decided to make a couple passses and figure how i would do this. Unfortunatly i ran out of fuel because i lost track of time. This was during the last 30ft of runway. I nosed it in pretty hard. I could probabley resusitate it but i am also thinking of a new plane.

This is my equipment
OS FL 70
7 channel reciever
5 standered hobico servos
600mah futabab battery

I would like the plane to fly a little slower than my pattern plane. Landings were very hot, which i did not like. I would like it to have bigger control serfuces. I would also like to to a be a fuse plane with a cowl. My price range is 100-150

It was a bad day at the field. 1 mideare, 1 deadstick out of hover, 1 landing gear falling off. Total of 4 planes were damaged. One was ripped to shreads!

Thanks
Cameron

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BTW, engine can't be mounted inverted, probabley sideways

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Ya don't make it easy do ya:eek::D man there's a BUNCH of planes that would be nice but they all have the engine inverted... you could probably mount any of them sidewinder but you'll have to move the motor mount... not sure you want to do that. Your FL-70 should run fine inverted... you just have to get the tank height and needles right;) if you reconsider the inverted mounting you have many option's... either that or plan on giving up the cowl... there is this plane http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HAN4100 not sure it's aerobatic enough for ya though.

John

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Ya, i know, but it just doesn't run well upsidedown all around. I would like it to be mounted sideways. The pulse does look cool though.

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Do you think i could get and x50 and sufficiently power it with the fl70
With a 13-6 prop i can hover at 75% power
I could probabley even slip on a 14-wood prop.

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It should... I had the older Funtana 40(hated it) and still have the Funtana 90(not bad) The older funtana 40 came out heavy for the size and flew so... I think your Fl-70 would have been marginal... IF horizon has the weight close and you can end up right at or even under 5lbs you should do fine with your Fl-70 on the nose running an APC 13x6. Check out the 3D forum... there is a build thread on the Funtana X 50.

John

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Thanks

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Thats why I only bring one plane to the field.:eek: Its like saying "Hey watch this!" Or "just one more flight." If you bring a bunch of planes. It goes something like this. Lets fly this one!-smash. Okay, lets fly that one--smash. Get out the---smash!

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They were not all mine. Only one was mine

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I remember a little over a year ago, I brought up a thread called "acceptable loss's." You take an average field on any given day and you may have a crash or two in relation to the total amount of flights that day.

We had an airshow over a two day period and i recall we had 18 total loss's out of 350something flights. Not sure if thats good or bad but was just for information. Be good for statistic purposes to keep track.

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Wow,
Ya, it was a very strange day. I get there and i see two planes ripped to shreads from their crash. I get in the air this guy with what i think was the gp extra 1.60 throttles up to take off pulls back on the stick to do an agresive clime out and the engine quits in no mans land. Was to high for it to be a hard landing but to low to the ground to recover. I forgot to mention before that there was some miscomunication of the ground a guy ran into a taxing plane while landing. The must have not herd each other say takeoff and land. And then i had to do a rough landing with one gear.

What a day

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That combo would work well in a Four-Star 40, no cowl though. Great flying plane. Also check out the Lanier Stinger series for easy flying aerobatic planes.

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thanks flyfalcon for the info
i think i am leaning toward the futana x50

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Well i took one good look at my Groovy and decided not to fix it. I found one big crack running along the fuse. It would have involved tacking of the covering wich i just didn't want to do. I would have probabley caust 90 dollars to fix it but to me it just wasn't worth the time to uncover and recover. I decided to go with an x50 wich should provide everything i am looking for. Slow flying 3d plane. The FL hovered my pattern plane that probabley wayed 6 pounds at 75 percent throttle. Should work great in the futana.

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Call me superstitious, but on days when there's more than one crash at the field I start feeling uneasy with this "maybe I'm next" feeling. At times like this, I stay grounded. Don't feel so bad Cambo, it's nearly impossible to land a plane that's missing one wheel without some kind of damage, especially if you're flying off grass. It happened to me a few months ago with my Laser 200. It was only the 2nd or 3rd flight after maiden, I made a low pass and noticed the missing wheel. I stayed airborne as long as I could to make the plane lighter. It's a bad feeling, you see your plane in the air, brand new, looking so good, and you know something is going to break as soon as you touch down. I tried to bring her down as slow as I could but as soon as the missing wheel side of the landing gear touched the grass it ripped the whole thing off causing some collateral damage to the fuse. It happens.

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Oh SOOO painfully true!

I brought out three planes last VERY VERY bad labor day...

Take off with Ultimate 40S, aileron servo breaks out of retainer in flight, SMASH (and I didn't get the "joy" of seeing the carnage happen... flew into a ravine), oops let's fly the next one. Upset.

Take off with P-51, oops, forgot to reset the radio from the last plane, ailerons reversed, SMASH.

Damn gotta fly SOMETHING today!!!

Pissed off by now, brand new Spacewalker II runs into fence, broke wing.

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Lesson learned.

One bad incident or minor damage = time to call it a day and review everything.

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Ya, it was very bad luck Planeclothes
I was almost out of fuel and making an aproach when I noticed the problem. I did a couple passes but was having trouble slowing it down. Something was wrong with the engine. I decided to just kill the engine during the aproch but i couldn't get it stopped. The thing flys to the last 30ft of runway when the engine runs out of gas. I found out that the carbscrew on my engine had fallen out and the only thing holding the carb to the engine was the throttle arm. It didn't have enough tavel to kill the engine. Talkabout bad luck. [:o]

Oh well, i got a couple flights in on my trusty durastick and hey, i am getting a new plane:D

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I use the same philosophy and for the same reasons. My only exceptions might be some small mess around electric models.

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Even though we do what we do, there are as many others who do not get their planes ready to go at home but at the field and constantly messing with them. They may be good buddies but as far as knowledge and advice. those are guys to stay away from.

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Yep, all my planes are tested the day before i go out.
Start the engines, make sure controls are working well, ect
Saves alot of time for me at the field. Less fidgeting (Spelling?), more flying