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flaviosi 11-09-2007 08:57 PM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
Hi, Tim!


aren't there hobby shops in Brazil that carry Great Planes products? Could you get your B-25 from a hobby shop? And if so, would the taxes and delivery charged to a dealer be less than you would pay?
Yes LHPs carry all kinds of planes here, but they would have the B-25 only on January, maybe Feb... If I waited, I could save a couple of hundred bucks...but... I wasn't adult enough to resist... :) My wife supports the hobby, because she thinks if I keep "playing with my toys" I wouldn't think of "nasty" things to do... :):)

It's so crazy that if I decided to buy 2 ARFs instead of one, it was worth to get a plane, go to US, buy them and come back, because they wouldn't charge me the first 500.00 and over the remain value I'd pay 50% flat. Do the math and you'll see that the savings would pay for 900.00 ticket. If I could take a few days off, I would do it.

I'm brazilian and portuguese (I have double nationality) and from time to time I spend... time... in Portugal. The prices aren't a rip off like they are in Brazil, but it's way more expensive even in Europe than in US.


I feel terrible that you have to pay all those fees![/
Me too, my friend, me too... But as I said, that's the way it is...

I just wanted to make a point on how lucky you guys are paying less than half of what we south americans and europeans do to enjoy our loved hobby.

Flavio

flaviosi 11-09-2007 09:04 PM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 

Still, a friend's boat can go through $1100 of fuel in a couple of hours,
To burn it in a couple of hours, I'd say it's HUGE! :)

Flavio

timothy thompson 11-09-2007 10:43 PM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
well lhs refunded me the difference by deducting the 120 from the cost of the retracts



you will spend 130 on cables and harnesses

norm 11-10-2007 12:40 AM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
How much did charge you for the retracts???

camdyson 11-10-2007 01:46 AM

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ORIGINAL: flaviosi


Still, a friend's boat can go through $1100 of fuel in a couple of hours,
To burn it in a couple of hours, I'd say it's HUGE! :)

Flavio
Yeah, wouldn't look out of place in Monaco! Plus fuel's around $1.30 a litre here (about US$5.00/gal) so that doesn't help.:(

Which reminds me, running a couple of OS70's will get through the juice quick enough too. Aaah, all good fun eh!

Cam

timothy thompson 11-10-2007 01:05 PM

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350 minus the 120. here are tail pics. Im going full detail on the tail gun area and cockpit. you need to shorten the guns as they are too long. also in the cockpit view that front piece with the number stamped will be gone so i can put my full scale cockpit in

timothy thompson 11-10-2007 01:13 PM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
hey if you find any bubbles in the monokote use a heat gun find the bubble and use a shaprp ii blade and fujt pierce the covering the air will escape and the monokote lies flat. I wish she was glassed and painted but its still nice and its all bolted together!

danrc2 11-10-2007 01:15 PM

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tim,
did you think about how you are gonna close and open your bomb bay doors yet. i am almost ready to start mine, but i wanna have everything need or think i will need before i start cutting into the fuse.

dan

timothy thompson 11-10-2007 01:37 PM

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yup small air cylinders and a seperate small tank. i have built a lot of models this is the best arf ive ever done. rumor has it a p-38 or lancaster is next pack is a 6v 3000mah. i will disable bec and the lipos will only run the motors

krproton 11-10-2007 01:48 PM

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ORIGINAL: timothy thompson

hey krproton how can scalenut52 offer the b-25 FOR 599.00 I FEEL TAKEN . its a rotating ad on here. hes sold several for that price
Sorry, I don't know dude. I work in R&D. I build stuff, fly it and write about it. [sm=72_72.gif]

timothy thompson 11-10-2007 02:26 PM

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well i got the 120 taken off the retract price lhs knows how to stay in business heres my upper turret and some 50 cals with ammo

norm 11-10-2007 05:40 PM

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MAIDEN FLIGHT TOP FLITE B-25.

I just got back minutes ago. 10 members from our club showed up to see this maiden. Well it was a succes, plain & simple success. The plane has no unexpected behavior and tamed wind in an exceptional manner. It is extremely stable and once you establish an attitude, it keep it. The first flight was the trimming. Took off clean no flaps, you need speed to lift and maintain heading "gears up" as soon as airborne to remove drag until safe altituded then remove the gyro assist then turn and trim and enjoy what you see. The approach were made 1/2 flap and airspeed help the plane maintain in a stable attitude. Final approach was made full flaps and landed l soft like a cat. Follow Top Flite recommendation for the flaps. 1/2 inch & 1 inch full.

The second flight was deceiving due to the lever that craked because of the @#$#@#@% X9303 radio I'm using. For some reason it moves all the servos back & forth like a start reset, the retract servo does the same and the plane fell on the table and craked the lever...well I flew the plane gears down and behaved again extremely well. after landing I noticed I lost the Turret and the turret guns, due to my poor installation with the snaps, I hope they will be available soon because without it it looks like it is missing character..

The Saito 82"s were great but no power to spare. The CG was made "Gears up" and still behaved a little tail heavy, but only little trim to correct it.

The gyro on the rudder is a must, may you no beleive in its characteristics in flight but at least to maintain the aircraft on a straight course on take off

This plane is the best I've flown so far. Twins are rare and they get most attention. Some comments were made as this is "the plane of the club" in a combination of looks, sound, attractiveness and excitement. It feels good to own it!

I cannot fly it tomorow due to the broken lever, but MikeRC sent me some in the mail this week and they should be here next week. Today the temperature was -4C ( +/- 28F) in Montreal clear sky. hope it is the same next week! Too bad for the turret. ( I walked 2.5 hrs trying to find it around my whole circuit) never saw it fall.

Looking forward to fly it again!

Picture of the plane before its Maiden...to bad we had camera problems for the flight, battery was dead. I had checked the camera last night and left it on!!! but we have a video and will soon be on youtube.

KenVC 11-10-2007 06:15 PM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
Congrats Norman!!!

KenVC

KenVC 11-10-2007 06:21 PM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
Dumb question for anyone.....help.

The B25 requires an 8 channel receiver right? Most of the 8 channel recievers have the 8th channel as a battery "slot" also. If you use all 8 "slots" for servos, how do you power it? Where would the battery hook up? I hope I won't have to buy another receiver.

RCKen 11-10-2007 06:26 PM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
KenVC,
When you are in a situation like that you need to use a Y-harness to connect the battery. Simply plug the Y-harness into the battery/channel 8 slot (actually, you can plug a battery into any slot on the reciever0, and then plug the battery into one side of the Y-harness and the servo into the other side of the Y-harness. This will provide power to the radio as well as let the servo operate.

Ken

KenVC 11-10-2007 06:43 PM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
Thanks for the help Ken. I haven't built an airplane requiring this many channels before.

KenVC

timothy thompson 11-10-2007 06:55 PM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
no a 7 is standard y your ailerons and motors. Woks for e power. Im going to use the scale door sdequence. when the gear is domn the rear doors are closed. no levers to worry about. ill use a jomar sequencer and micro servos on the doors. It works great on the 310. Took me 2 days to do the top turret and all the guns. I had to use the kit rear guns as thes screw inand hold the assy in place. very nice ship. 6 pounds so far batt and rx in rudder and elev servos in. nacelles bolted on.

krproton 11-10-2007 07:40 PM

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Normand,

congratulations!!!!

I'm very glad for you.

I'll write more praise later, but I have to go. But wait, I broke one of my levers too--on my second flight when I had to land with the gear up and the doors closed. I fixed the lever by laminating on a piece of 1/64" plywood. It worked fine. Until you get your new levers, maybe you could fix the old same as I.

norm 11-10-2007 08:56 PM

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Already done! In fact I just did it. You had mentionned this before in this thread and I did just that.

norm 11-10-2007 09:25 PM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
Timothy,

Where did you get a rumor about a Lancaster??? You know the AVRO Lancaster is the Bomber I love. I do not know about you but a 1/9th Lancaster woul be a sure Hit!!! and Different.; Everyone is in the B17 business, another one would only populate the market. In my opinion if TF would build an AVRO Lancaster bomber the thing would sell like hotcakes! They are the only ones with a serious scale ARF, and yes I agree this is the best ARF. I vote for na AVRO LANCASTER, imagine a quad ARF!!! I would not be surprized.


sgoen 11-10-2007 10:16 PM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
What size box does the kit come in? I was wondering when my kits comes in, if it will fit in my police car or will I have to take my truck to get it.

RCKen 11-10-2007 10:23 PM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 


ORIGINAL: sgoen

What size box does the kit come in? I was wondering when my kits comes in, if it will fit in my police car or will I have to take my truck to get it.
66"x19"x11"

Ken

timothy thompson 11-10-2007 11:47 PM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
oh some horizon people i know (not krproton) maybe it will be next! for a b-17 the wingspan kit is they way to go 100 % scale airfoils

camdyson 11-11-2007 12:06 AM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
Well done Norm. Welcome to my experience with snaps! Trust me, the magnets work WAY better....

Think I'll laminate some carbon sheet onto those levers - have plenty lying around.

Cam

timothy thompson 11-11-2007 12:39 AM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
make a rotating turret like me its easy you use a servo. wingspan has the stuff

camdyson 11-11-2007 04:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: normandouellette

Timothy,

Where did you get a rumor about a Lancaster??? You know the AVRO Lancaster is the Bomber I love. I do not know about you but a 1/9th Lancaster woul be a sure Hit!!! and Different.; Everyone is in the B17 business, another one would only populate the market. In my opinion if TF would build an AVRO Lancaster bomber the thing would sell like hotcakes! They are the only ones with a serious scale ARF, and yes I agree this is the best ARF. I vote for na AVRO LANCASTER, imagine a quad ARF!!! I would not be surprized.


Was my post # 380 responsible? I was kidding!...:):eek:

It WOULD be nice though :D

Cam

norm 11-11-2007 05:56 AM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
Snaps, Magnets, Levers

Camdyson,

Well you are right about the snaps, thought I was going to do good. I ordered 1/4 inch & 3/8 inch N50 magnets 1/16th thick. those will replace my snaps. The ADF antenna is held there and never moved. About the Levers, they are tough enough made out of wood. My problem was that the X9303 JR radio 2.4G whenever you switch on the radio on, it brings the servos to their "Normal" 100% value. You got to be careful when you set the gear servo so its normal 100% value is set when the retracts are down. I had to switch around my up & down tube for the servo to remain @ 100% value. You then "bind" with the gears down. Solved the problem that way. My plane fell on the table due to that and a door resisted and broke the lever.

About the Lancaster, I got excited with made up stuff...but 1/8 size would be too big. got to be 1/9th or 1 /10 and still would be 11-12.5 feet wing span

norm 11-11-2007 06:01 AM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
Box size,

SGOEN,

You will get "pulled over" with that box! exceeding size limits, the thing is too big to fit in a car, will block your view and will not fit.

sgoen 11-11-2007 06:18 AM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
Trust me,
I will not get pulled over.

flycast 11-11-2007 07:00 AM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
I think the air would be a little "blue" if Mr. Sgogen got pulled over LOL

norm 11-11-2007 08:14 AM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
I guess not!

timothy thompson 11-11-2007 12:00 PM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
no i heard in at the LHS either that or a p-38. Oh they are bashing this arf on rcscale builder saying the top of the fuse is the wrong shape . I checked it out and for a J model we are right on. The early b and c models had oval and rounder sections. The J was as the model shows

norm 11-11-2007 02:48 PM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
Thanks for your precision Tim, some guys love criticism and misinformation.

timothy thompson 11-11-2007 03:00 PM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
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its all they know!

norm 11-11-2007 07:49 PM

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Tim (e-power tim)

You are really impressive with your detailing...I'll limit myself to the bomb bay. I lost my turret in flight with the guns. What do you suggest? the TF are not available until the end of nov od december. Your turret details are modified. Do you think I can get a wingspan turret that is the same or similar? and functional???.

Below are some pictures of the B-25 sitting there in the ceiling of my garage waiting for a next flight next to its "Guinee Pig", the Dual Ace (Twin OS55...it rocks 11.5 lbs)

arfdog 11-11-2007 08:01 PM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
Anyone thought of putting a G.90 BME on this plane?

timothy thompson 11-11-2007 10:47 PM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
wingspan does a 1/9 B-17 probably. It was a bendex turret. Ya all that detail work takes time

mike-rc 11-12-2007 08:24 AM

RE: Top Flite B-25 ARF (Tecnical, tips, suggestions)
 
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Here is how I attached my cockpit. I am using magnets to hold it down so I can remove it easily for access to the lipos I will put in the fuse. I put the batteries in the nacelles in my last two twins, but access is difficult. We do not have benches at our field, and I needed to flip the plane over to mount and connect the batteries. I tack glued the tacky pilots. They are good enough for now, If I find something better I will change them. I am not going to go crazy on the details, the details Top Flite has in the kit are good enough for me. I want to fly this plane.

mike-rc 11-12-2007 08:32 AM

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I will try again, getting the images into the post is kicking my butt!

norm 11-12-2007 09:22 AM

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Well done Mike I'll do the same thing. I also got my levers in the mail today. They look solid! Thank you.


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