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gtalbot 05-27-2003 01:08 PM

Canopy: What type of Glue?
 
My ARF has the canopy glued on with the white canopy glue.
The slightest bump knocks it loose.

I've removed the white glue and am about to re-glue...any suggestions? I'm thinking of just using good ole epoxy???

Steve Guinn 05-27-2003 01:28 PM

Canopy: What type of Glue?
 
Scroll down to J&Z Z R/C56 canopy glue. Great stuff!

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...93p?&C=RGF&P=7

Falcon-RCU 05-27-2003 02:30 PM

Canopy: What type of Glue?
 
Are you sure the surfaces were clean before you glued them I clean mine with alcohol and the canopy needs to be washed with soap and water.

TT2 05-27-2003 04:03 PM

Canopy: What type of Glue?
 
I haven't had good luck with RC56 glue. Seems to take forever to set up. IMO, the best stuff to use is clear 'siliconized' acrylic caulk. It comes out of the tube white but dries clear. Grips like crazy! You should be able to get it at any decent hardware store.

-Tom

blvdbuzzard 05-27-2003 04:19 PM

Canopy: What type of Glue?
 
I have used the water based clear caulking with good results. I also use the clear 100% silicone caulking. I use alcohol on a paper twol to wipe any excess off the plane and canopy.

Dru.

dickj 05-27-2003 05:40 PM

canopy Glue
 
I have found that the RC-56 formula was changed. I am told to comply with the EPA. I changed to ZAP-A-DAP-A Goo II and am on the second tube. I have put on a few canopies and none have come loose or become discolored. This dries clear and fairly quick. I like it!

flyinrazrback 05-27-2003 06:00 PM

Canopy: What type of Glue?
 
zap, zap a dap goo, works great

gtalbot 05-27-2003 08:51 PM

Where
 
Where can I get Zap a Dap Goo?
Is it a hardware thing? or a Wal-Mart thing?

kwelz 05-28-2003 01:39 AM

Canopy: What type of Glue?
 
Screws. I glue the canopy in place then use screws to really hold it.

majortom-RCU 05-29-2003 01:10 AM

Canopy: What type of Glue?
 
For some reason our LHS likes to stock Pacer Formula 560, an obvious rip-off on the RC 56. I didn't like the way it behaved on my last canopy attempt. I laid a bead on the interior mating surface of the canopy and stuck it on the fuselage, taped it down and waited for it to dry. It never dried, even after a few days it was still white and mobile. Plus it dripped where I didn't want it.

I ended up using PFM, but that stuff flows like warm tar, looked clumpy as heck when it dried.

I have used the Formula 560 for a few other applications--where the glue was fully exposed for air-drying, and it works pretty well in those circumstances. Nice and clear, settles down into a smoothly shrunk, flexible skin but good bonding to monocote and anything else.

For my next canopy I will figure out how to temporarily secure the edges all the way around and then lay in a bead of the Formula 560 without trying to work it in between the mating surfaces, and see how that goes.

I used to use a lot of PVA in my former life, and I swear that's what the Formula 560 is. Flows thick and white, dries fast and clear, has good hold but flexible and shock-resistant.

I also notice how when I goop some rtv silicone in the channel where my wire landing gear crosses under the fuselage, when I have to replace the gear the silicone pulls the monocote away from the wood. So now we know silicone sticks well to film. Maybe I'll try some silicone on the next canopy after the Formula 560 and the PVA.

Tcat1000 05-29-2003 10:33 AM

Glue
 
Hi....Go to your local sporting supplies dealer (bows & arrows) & buy a small tube of clear "Fletching cement". It is what's used for cementing the feathers on the arrow shafts. It dries clear & shrinks to almost nothing. Forget about anything else. You won't believe this stuff. Now get to it.......................Barry

TT2 05-29-2003 12:46 PM

Canopy: What type of Glue?
 
Barry,

The fletching cement sounds interesting. What brand are you using?

-Tom

Tcat1000 05-29-2003 02:08 PM

Fletching Cement
 
Hi.......The brand that I use is "Fletch-Tite" in a 3/4 oz tube. Also make sure that there are no gaps between the canopy & fuse. Use very--very--very sparingly!!! Once you use this method, you will throw all of your other canopy glues in the garbage! Did I mention to use sparingly?????? The tube comes with a long tube applicator also. This tube is enough for about 25 canopies or more. Good luck.......
Barry
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FalconWings10 05-29-2003 02:17 PM

Canopy: What type of Glue?
 
Will it stick the canopy to Monokote or do you have to remove small pieces of covering first? Thanx

Tcat1000 05-29-2003 04:00 PM

Fletching Cement
 
It will stick to anything. No need to remove the covering. Trust me! You really need to try this stuff!

TT2 05-30-2003 03:14 AM

Canopy: What type of Glue?
 
For $3.00 a tube I'll DEFINITELY check it out. I'm willing to bet that it could also work well for securing the ends in carbon fiber pushrods.

-Tom

rajul 05-30-2003 08:32 AM

Canopy: What type of Glue?
 
I use #2 screws and 1/4" trim tape to hold down the front edges and prevent fuel seeping in

FalconWings10 05-30-2003 09:49 AM

Re: Fletching Cement
 

Originally posted by Tcat1000
It will stick to anything. No need to remove the covering. Trust me! You really need to try this stuff!

Is it fuel proof?

Tcat1000 05-30-2003 10:39 AM

Fuel Proof?
 
Sorry, but I can't tell you if it is fuel proof or not. I can tell you that you will have to pry the canopy off with a screw driver if you ever want to remove it! Hey guys, I have also been down this canopy road problem. This stuff works, & has worked for me for several years now. Just make sure that you have a tight fit all the way around, and apply a small bead from the tube after taping the canopy in place first. Apply between the canopy & fuse sealing the gap with a small bead. It dries clear & shrinks to almost nothing. Takes a couple of hours or so depending on how thick you applied. It don't take much, so again use sparingly.
Barry

FalconWings10 07-11-2003 01:26 AM

Canopy: What type of Glue?
 
Tcat1000
I hate to bring this up again but since I've FINALLY been released from military duty, I can get back to building and flying. I found "Fletch-tite" from Dick's Sporting Goods but it comes in the cement and/or instant (super glue) varieties. Which one do you recommend? Thanks.

Jeff

Tcat1000 07-11-2003 01:51 AM

Canopy: What type of Glue?
 
No Problem......It is the "CEMENT" type. It takes a few hours to dry. & again, use it sparingly. You will love it. Good luck
Barry

gtalbot 07-11-2003 01:53 AM

Slow
 
I went out and bought Fletch Tite as recommended above.
It worked great!

Takes about twenty to thirty minutes to set...I had to hold a couple of gaps flat by hand...however, after it set overnight, it is clean, tight, and strong. I believe he wasn't joking when he said it would take a screw driver to pry it off.

I recommend the slower drying solution. It will give you time to correct mistakes. If your canopy fits perfect, the quick dry may be OK. I had a couple of gaps. After I let the inititial set dry, I went back and filled in the gaps and held it down. Now it's smooth all the way around .

rajul 07-11-2003 02:51 AM

Canopy: What type of Glue?
 
Does fletch-tite emit any odour ?

TT2 07-11-2003 02:59 AM

Canopy: What type of Glue?
 
Thanks TCat1000! I used this stuff for the first time the other night. I tried to run a small bead around the entire inside of the canopy just by the edge and slapped it on the fuselage. Then I used rubber bands around the fuse and 2" x 2" x 2" chunks of foam to help spread the load. When I pulled off the rubber bands I noticed that some parts of the glue had dried too quickly before I could get the canopy on. I lifted the canopy in these areas away from the fuse, splurted a little glue in there and held them in place. After I was satisfied with the adhesion, I ran a bead around the entire edge. It turned out GREAT!

You mentioned running the bead around the canopy while it's held in place with tape. Do you just 'tack' it near the edges of the tape and then go back and run a bead all the way around??? I've got a MONSTER of a canopy to glue on pretty soon so the method I described wouldn't possibly work since the glue would 'skin' before I got all the way around the canopy. Your method might just be the ticket...simpler and neater also.

Thanks for the great tip! You're right...I don't see myself ever using the old canopy glues again. Good stuff...matter of fact, I even used it to secure a small piece of silicone tubing to a piece of plastic. I haven't tried it for CF pushrods yet, but I'm going to go in my shop right now and give it a whirl.

-Tom

Tcat1000 07-11-2003 10:44 AM

Fletch Tite
 
Glad the glue is working for some of you guys. I put the canopy on the plane making sure it is tight all of the way around, & THEN run a small bead all of the way around while holding the canopy in place with tape or rubber bands. Again, this is the slower drying cement type & not the super glue type.
P.S. Don't get the glue in the wrong place though! Apply carefully & sparingly....

Barry


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