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rodbriz 03-15-2009 03:48 AM

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ORIGINAL: 0257

Well, first flight is done.
take off was very fast, the engine has power for unlimited verticals. After few meters it started to climb. I had to click several times the down trim to fly it straight. All the acrobatic manoeuvres were without problems, knife edge needed just a little rudder use. Anyway the model doesnt fly like on rails at all. I would compare the flight characteristics to Pitts byplane I used to fly.
Landing... that is another think. I got a side wind, not very strong but the conditions were not ideal. When I tried to land for the first time I slowly approached, the landing gear met the ground and whole plane did quite a large jump. So I used a full throtle and tried it again. Next time it looked better. When I touched the ground I made few little jumps, everythink looked good when suddenly whole plane fliped over its nose. Afterwards I found the landing gear broke in a place of weld joint. That was the reason why the plane fliped. The wheel covers are both cracked.
And the video, thats a story. My father brought a new videocamera with tripod to the field. He filmed every important moment. After the crash he found he flmed NOTHING, not a second of the flight. He was nervous as well and used a wrong button :eek: After that he was so self blaming I felt sorry for him :)
OK, my plan is to rebuild the landing gear with a slightly stronger wire. I am not sure if I can repair the wheel covering. And I try not to fly in a crosswind. :)
Hi, sounds like it flies real nice,like a Pitts you say? Your problem on landing can be helped by using the ailerons as spoilers like a glider. I have about 15 degrees up selectable on the ailerons on my Gee Bee 'Y's and this certainly keeps them on the ground after landing especially in windy conditions. The problem with the Zee is once the tail is down the elevators effectively stop working as they are blanketed by the wing. Hope you didn't suffer too much damage, don't give up.

0257 03-15-2009 04:10 AM

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ORIGINAL: gee bee ace

Did you land on grass or a runway? do you think it would make much difference.

I landed on grass. Our airfield is now damaged by tractor trails, the plane crossed one of the tractor trail while landing. I think that could be the moment the week point of the landing gear broke.

Ace, If I were you I wouldnt change anything. Your GeeBee will be lighter then mine, I believe without a crosswind on a fine landingfield everything can go just right.
In fact I would say even with the 40cc engine it is still quite light. On the other hand, the power of a huge engine, that is really something.. like in 1931 :D
It is not a aerobatic plane but it is predictible all the time. It is just short fuselage plane with high landing gear. Lets try it again :D Good luck to you too [8D]

pencon 04-07-2009 01:18 AM

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Cmon Seagull GBZ owners ! Lets hear if this thing flys ok or not ? So far tests are kind of inconclusive .I'd like to know wether to buy one or not ....

graham b 04-25-2009 05:15 PM

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well im flying mine in the morning loaded with a 26i crrc petrol ill post some pictures and some video off its maiden plus ill post it on U-TUBE look out for geebeez seagull there will be unless i smash it into a billion bits lol

0257 04-26-2009 01:09 AM

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Great news Graham b, how does your GeeBee fly and how does it land? [8D]
A lot of people will be waiting for your movie, keep posting ;)

pencon 05-04-2009 10:14 PM

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Well I think that if it was good news he would have posted by now....:eek:

gee bee ace 05-05-2009 06:12 AM

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Hey guys im still here, i apoligize but i just havent had time to get to the planes for a while. Ill try my best to maiden the gee bee in the next month. i havent even started the new motor yet.[:'(]

graham b 05-09-2009 05:10 AM

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SORRY GUYS BEEN SO BUSY HAV'NT HAD TIME AND RIGHT WEATHER FOR MAIDEN OFF GEE BEE Z HOPEING FOR LESS WIND ON SUNDAY THIS WEEK BIT WINDY TODAY THOE SHES READY THOE SOON AS FLIGHT IS DONE VIDS WILL GO ON U-TUBE WITH MY OTHER STUFF LOOK FOR VOODOO MUSTANG THATS ONE OF MINE AS WELL SWEET SPEAK SOON GUYS SORRY FOR DELAY BUT I DO ALSO HAVE KIDS LOL

AlexSLAMS 05-24-2009 02:42 PM

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I won't give too much away because i'll leave it to Graham B for the full report but his GeeBee Z flew today and he was VERY happy with it! Beautiful model!

PSJDBF 06-26-2009 10:14 AM

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Hey Guys anymore Flight reports ? good or bad.
I've heard that these planes require a gentle hand on the throttle due to torque roll ?.
I have just picked one up & was thinking about getting some oleo struts to minimise
the bounce during landings, any other tips ?.
Cheers Steffan.

rodbriz 06-26-2009 10:43 AM

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This guy had a bad experience, I hope it's not typical. [&o]

http://www.rcmf.co.uk/4um/index.php/topic,47863.0.html

PSJDBF 06-26-2009 09:36 PM

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Aghh !! that doesn't sound good [&o].
I have a Saito 170R3 waiting for an Fw190 that is taking for ever
to build so thought I'd try this out to get some time on the engine.
Will have to continue & hope 1st, the engine produces enough grunt
2nd that she performs better than Doc's experience with this bird.
Only two flight reports so far ..1 ok 1 not so good ,getting worried[:o].

Might do the first flight without the wheel pants to reduce alittle drag.;)

graham b 06-30-2009 06:44 PM

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Hi guys,
I have flown it and she flys like a trainer.
i had a perfect sunday there were about 40 members at our field that day ,so i ran her up taxi'ed her out to my supprise there were about twenty members with camers phones video cams so i couldent f-k it up presure on.
so i opened her up slowly before i knew it her tail was up and she was airborn quite gracefully.
so i flew her about for four laps she needed miner trim and had loads of power (CCCR 26icc).

you do need some rudder in the turns thoe WOW what a great little bird she is. NOW for the crap bits you do need to cream the landings if your field is bumpy dont bother your just end up breaking it.
mine landed ok but i did manage to tip her on her nose three times on the fouth i broke my spats and at £40.00 a shot you really need to polish your aproche.
spot on so i would say that if you guys want something that will not be forgotton at the field enjoy this fab littlle planee here is some pictures of mine

www.theslams.co.uk/photos.htm


there is also some of my other planes on here as well (cap232, voodoo mustang, and some video but got none off the geebeez yet put on.:D but there are others on there so enjoy graham out ..............

PSJDBF 07-01-2009 03:50 AM

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Thank god !! Pleased to hear a good report.
I have a set of oleo struts coming from the UK for mine & was thinking of using
Du Bro Big wheels ( inflatable type ) as our strip is rock hard, how do you think this set up would be for landings
Graham ?planning on flying the first few with out the wheel pants/covers.
Also doe's she handle the extra weight in the nose ok, as the 170R3 is a heavy monster?.
And lastly C.O.G. did you set it as per the manual ?.
Thanks for the flight report sounds like it 's a nice flyer, it certainly looks the part.
Moving the family back to the city next week then will make a start on her.
Cheers Steffan.

deadstickdan 07-12-2009 03:35 PM

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Just checked Horizon's website and looky what we have here!

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=SEA3525


Might make many of you happy!

rowdog_14 07-14-2009 03:40 PM

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Yeah horizon now has them on pre-order!!!! I would order one but I just purchased the hangar 9 p-47 150.

spaul813 07-16-2009 01:02 PM

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Sorry to everyone if I am in the wrong area for this question, I am new at this site. I have a Hangar 9 P-47 150. I've seen some videos with a Moki 1.8 and I have a Moki 2.1 I would like to put in it. Any input on wether this would be okay would be greatly appreciated. If it's fast, that's okay.....that's how I like them. Thanks for any and all input.

rowdog_14 07-18-2009 02:47 PM

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You need to check out this forum it will tell you all you need. I personally think that a 1.80 moki is waaaaaaay more than enough. I have a OS 160 fx in a 18 lb staggerwing and it flys it fine actually more than enough for it, so i put a OS 160 fx in my hangar 9 p-47 150. So i say save the 2.10 for something a lot bigger.


http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_32...tm.htm#8902532

PSJDBF 07-24-2009 08:47 AM

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Have finally made a start on my Gee Bee , first thing was to replace that pilot with a more period scale type pilot.
I had an old full bodied PH the pilot people 1/6th scale pilot who was cut in half, had his head sown back on and
some new clothes fitted, looks better than the original I reckon.

PSJDBF 07-28-2009 06:26 PM

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Mounted the FA170R3 & all fits well under the large cowl , may use the dummy radial to create some baffling.:D

PSJDBF 07-30-2009 06:25 PM

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My struts from Unitracts in the UK turned up the other day, fitted them up the other night on night shift
,nice smooth action and the fit is perfect with the wheel pants.

PSJDBF 08-02-2009 09:12 AM

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Getting close now , servo's are in & connected ,gear mounted though still waiting for my big wheels to turn up.
some pic's of the progress.

gee bee ace 08-02-2009 11:24 AM

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PSJDBF It looks good man great to see you have gone to the extra lengths with your set up, sweet donk too.
I still haven't got around to finishing the last few details of mine yet. Havent had time to fly anything lately.
So have you got somewhere nice to fly it up at Pannawonica.
All i have to do to fly mine is mount the receiver batt and fuel tank and its ready to go.
My biggest problem is finding a nice bit of flat ground to land on, i think ill have to join one of the clubs in Perth and stop flying in my mates rough paddocks.
Im interested to hear your opinions of the landing gear you got. Just out of interest how much$$$$ for the set up.
Cheers Gus

Kostas1 08-02-2009 12:09 PM

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Great plane!

Please keep us posted!

PSJDBF 08-02-2009 12:41 PM

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Hey Gus , We've got a good strip to fly off as long as the motor bikes & 4wd,s keep off it.
My flying buddy has a trailer which he has fitted up with a small dozer blade so we grade it
every so often to keep it smooth.
The oleo struts were just over the $100.00 Aus mark ,you tell them your measurements
& style you want & they will whip 'em up & ship them out for you in a couple of weeks.
I had mine made up with a total length of 170mm & this allows me to connect the wheel pants
as per the original set up.
I have to do an extra stint up here this week then down to Secret Harbour to to see the family
as the've just moved down there , then the big maiden I hope.
Here's a vid I posted on utube of one of my planes ,it also shows Wilkies trailer grading the strip
if your interested in seeing where we fly ,the red dirt is a pain in the you know what though !!.
Cheers for the kind words kostas1.
Cheers Steffan.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBJU1rsF-2I


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