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can anybody tell me if the wings maker is a respecticle company i,m looking for a arf kit to build looking for .25 scale plane to assemble is this a good place to purchase from?
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Yes, they are basically part of World Models and distributed in the US by www.airborne-models.com.
Their covering material isn't the greatest in my opinion and the instructions can sometimes be lacking but the planes generally fly great and the distributor stands behind the product. |
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they've done a couple of reviews of them here on RCU, might checkthem out, reviews seem favorable
http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...rticle_id=1117 http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...rticle_id=1108 |
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Please don't use the words 'ARF' and "Kit" at the same time ;)
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An ARF is not a Kit. A Kit is not an ARF. They are different from the box up. You do not build an ARF. You assemble pre-made sub assemblies. It may be nit picky, but a kit is a lot more work.
An easy way to find out about a company is to do a search here on RCU. If they are not a good company, there will be lots of threads about them. Dru. |
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I for one, am a little tired of the nit-picking over this subject.
assemble............ To fit together the parts or pieces of: assemble a machine; assemble data. build................... To make something by combining materials or parts. Please notice either word can refer to essentially the same process. Yes, starting from scratch rather than sub assemblies can be and usually is more work, but both types of KIT aircraft require BUILDING. In fact, some planes call ARFs REALLY need "BUILDING" and should be called "BUILDERS ARFs if anything. I have a bigger problem with the acronym ARF. How many of these planes are truly "almost ready to fly"? VERY VERY FEW !!!!!!!!!! I have spent anywhere from 15 to 300 hours on most "ARFs"!!!!! And I have built some "kits" in less time. We know the terms, we know the processes. Lets just get over and on with it, please. As for WM / or their new face, I have had several of there planes and still have an AT6. All have been good planes and well thought out kits with nicely fitting sub assemblies and fiberglass parts. Paint and covering match nicely. Hardware is of good quality and the manuals are above average for these days. Holes line up on things and they are very complete. The covering is OK, and doesn't melt at medium temp. like some does. I have never liked the pilot busts they provide, but a small thing really. I would recommend them overall. |
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Here we go again. OP asks for input on a company, and within a page it's an arf vs kit thread. ========== Yes, The Wings Maker should be producing some pretty decent airplanes. Supposedly, they've changed their covering from some of the old World Models runs as well. I haven't flown anything they've done under their new banner, but flew plenty of TWM birds...really quite fond of them. And their prices are certainly among the best in the hobby. |
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ORIGINAL: ram3500-RCU I for one, am a little tired of the nit-picking over this subject. assemble............ To fit together the parts or pieces of: assemble a machine; assemble data. build................... To make something by combining materials or parts. Please notice either word can refer to essentially the same process. Yes, starting from scratch rather than sub assemblies can be and usually is more work, but both types of KIT aircraft require BUILDING. In fact, some planes call ARFs REALLY need "BUILDING" and should be called "BUILDERS ARFs if anything. I have a bigger problem with the acronym ARF. How many of these planes are truly "almost ready to fly"? VERY VERY FEW !!!!!!!!!! I have spent anywhere from 15 to 300 hours on most "ARFs"!!!!! And I have built some "kits" in less time. We know the terms, we know the processes. Lets just get over and on with it, please. I've yet to see an ARF that is a model of anything. It's a flying machine, or miniature aircraft. There is too much that is not scale with them. Bill, Waco Brother #1 |
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Just what we need........ ANOTHER category (Builders ARF)!!!!!
ORIGINAL: ram3500-RCU I for one, am a little tired of the nit-picking over this subject. assemble............ To fit together the parts or pieces of: assemble a machine; assemble data. build................... To make something by combining materials or parts. Please notice either word can refer to essentially the same process. Yes, starting from scratch rather than sub assemblies can be and usually is more work, but both types of KIT aircraft require BUILDING. In fact, some planes call ARFs REALLY need "BUILDING" and should be called "BUILDERS ARFs if anything. I have a bigger problem with the acronym ARF. How many of these planes are truly "almost ready to fly"? VERY VERY FEW !!!!!!!!!! I have spent anywhere from 15 to 300 hours on most "ARFs"!!!!! And I have built some "kits" in less time. We know the terms, we know the processes. Lets just get over and on with it, please. As for WM / or their new face, I have had several of there planes and still have an AT6. All have been good planes and well thought out kits with nicely fitting sub assemblies and fiberglass parts. Paint and covering match nicely. Hardware is of good quality and the manuals are above average for these days. Holes line up on things and they are very complete. The covering is OK, and doesn't melt at medium temp. like some does. I have never liked the pilot busts they provide, but a small thing really. I would recommend them overall. |
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[quote]ORIGINAL: Stickbuilder
[quote]ORIGINAL: ram3500-RCU I for one, am a little tired of the nit-picking over this subject. assemble............ To fit together the parts or pieces of: assemble a machine; assemble data. build................... To make something by combining materials or parts. Please notice either word can refer to essentially the same process. Yes, starting from scratch rather than sub assemblies can be and usually is more work, but both types of KIT aircraft require BUILDING. In fact, some planes call ARFs REALLY nee |
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I knew you would chime in on this one Stickbuilder.:D
BTW, here is my latest project. A Meister 1/5 scale P-47 |
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Gentlemen, please notice the original poster is 25 post into learning here on RCU. While a correction in the terminology Kristj179 used may be appropriate. Getting into a heated ARF vs. kit discussion is not.
Please stick to the topic at hand. Thank you, David |
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What happened to the rest of the posts on this thread?
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ORIGINAL: Stickbuilder What happened to the rest of the posts on this thread? |
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ORIGINAL: Robotech ORIGINAL: Stickbuilder What happened to the rest of the posts on this thread? |
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Moderator at large. :D It's an Obama type world now folks. Say good by to your constitution.
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Just my opinion but an ARF to me is the planes in my basement they are almost ready to fly but almost means i need to charge the batteries take em to the field put the wings on and fly. RTF means the plane sitting on the runway feuled running basicly ready to fly.Point is they all come from wood, plastic, foam, fiberglass, whatever, at some point they need assembling. and aside from scratch built, most come as pieces or sub assemblies in a box. so if you will let it be
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"<span style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px; "> You would be wrong in this instance. "</span><div><font size="3" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;">
</span></font></div><div><font size="3" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size: 13px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;">Not so....my post was removed!</span></font></div> |
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Guys, this is not addressed to any one person and I'm not trying to come off like a jerk here but the original poster was simply asking about ARF's from The Wings Maker. Only two responses address his question. The rest were all opinions and rants about the use of a word. I imagine that is why several posts got removed. Is his use of one word really that important? Seriously, is it?
If you want to politely suggest the guy use different wording in order to more effectively communicate about the hobby, fine. When we get nit-picky, egotistical, arrogant and degrading though it just turns people off to this online forum and the hobby in general. We all have opinions about a lot of things. I'm not even disagreeing with some of them here. It just isn't answering the guys question is all I am saying. |
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