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pesty351 12-03-2009 08:52 PM

Too much right thrust? Waco
 
Does anybody know what kind of thrust angle are these beast supposed to have. I haven't flown it yet but it looks to have an awful lot of right thrust.

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ram3500-RCU 12-03-2009 09:31 PM

RE: Too much right thrust? Waco
 
If you look at the Park Zone Corsair from the same angle, it has very similar right and slightly down thrust. I would say yours is probably very close to what you need.

pesty351 12-03-2009 09:40 PM

RE: Too much right thrust? Waco
 
Sweet thanks!

MetallicaJunkie 12-03-2009 09:57 PM

RE: Too much right thrust? Waco
 
looks like a lot IMO...if it was a glow even more so a gasser i definitely wouldnt fly it...

krayzc-RCU 12-03-2009 10:09 PM

RE: Too much right thrust? Waco
 
kewl when is the maiden flight set to take place?

ram3500-RCU 12-03-2009 11:43 PM

RE: Too much right thrust? Waco
 
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ORIGINAL: MetallicaJunkie

looks like a lot IMO...if it was a glow even more so a gasser i definitely wouldnt fly it...
I respectfully disagree. Electrics carry a lot of thrust offset. Here is my Corsair, and I wouldn't want any less, and this after maybe fifty flights. She flies like a dream. This is all set up in the factory motor mount.

Bozarth 12-04-2009 12:08 AM

RE: Too much right thrust? Waco
 


ORIGINAL: ram3500-RCU


ORIGINAL: MetallicaJunkie

looks like a lot IMO...if it was a glow even more so a gasser i definitely wouldnt fly it...
I respectfully disagree. Electrics carry a lot of thrust offset. Here is my Corsair, and I wouldn't want any less, and this after maybe fifty flights. She flies like a dream. This is all set up in the factory motor mount.
We need more replies like yours here on RCU! Too many guesses and not enough facts. Your picture is an outstanding response to the original poster.

Kurt

MetallicaJunkie 12-04-2009 01:25 AM

RE: Too much right thrust? Waco
 


ORIGINAL: ram3500-RCU


ORIGINAL: MetallicaJunkie

looks like a lot IMO...if it was a glow even more so a gasser i definitely wouldnt fly it...
I respectfully disagree. Electrics carry a lot of thrust offset. Here is my Corsair, and I wouldn't want any less, and this after maybe fifty flights. She flies like a dream. This is all set up in the factory motor mount.
Point well taken..i have virtually no experience in electrics...my opinion was based on my glow and gasser experience, i guess it doesn't carry over into the electric world

skillet92 12-04-2009 11:35 AM

RE: Too much right thrust? Waco
 
Guys I have a hangar 9 Corsair with G-20 Gasser and the parkzone corsair. I can tell ya that my electric has a lot more Right thrust built in than my Gasser. Why I do not have a clue. Both fly great. And both require precise ground handling while taking off because of the torque.

pesty351 12-04-2009 12:13 PM

RE: Too much right thrust? Waco
 
Hey thanks guys. Im hoping to maiden it as soon as possible I just need to wait for the wind to die down.

ram3500-RCU 12-04-2009 02:12 PM

RE: Too much right thrust? Waco
 

ORIGINAL: skillet92

Guys I have a hangar 9 Corsair with G-20 Gasser and the parkzone corsair. I can tell ya that my electric has a lot more Right thrust built in than my Gasser. Why I do not have a clue. Both fly great. And both require precise ground handling while taking off because of the torque.
I have been flying RC for over 40 years now and enjoy nearly all aircraft types of the hobby including the exploding electric type. I have a couple observations to offer on this subject. Our larger and heavier nitro and gas ships have greater mass vs. torque, having heavier wings. They are also generally using slower turning props than any electric direct drive motor (the older gear reduced and slower turning props did not have as much right thrust built in). The light weight (usually foam of some type) electric planes are more easily effected by the torque that an electric motor can exert on it. Most of the weight in them is concentrated very near the mean thrust line (center of the plane). A greater thrust angle helps to overcome all this on these light airframes. Heavier more conventionally built planes powered with larger electric motors, turning typical giant scale props, do not seem to need as much right thrust (more what we would call typical in the 3deg range). I am experimenting with adding weight to the right wing tip on planes (as explained in a recent RC journal) and in does reduce the need for this right thrust (and even reduces the deflection of right rudder on take off), and almost eliminates the effect of torque. Very interesting. For all these years, I went to great lengths to laterally balance my planes, and I should have been making them slightly heavy on the right wing tip.:eek: The learning continues.:D

skillet92 12-04-2009 03:21 PM

RE: Too much right thrust? Waco
 
RAM that makes sense. I have other light Electrics and they all have alot of built in thrust. I also have a GP 330s that has a DL 50(That plane is a BEAST) it is WAY over powered and i had to add extra right thrust to it to get it to track straight!

pesty351 12-05-2009 08:59 PM

RE: Too much right thrust? Waco
 
Well I maiden it today. It flew well but is very underpowered. If I were to get in any trouble the motor defiantly could not get me out of it. I'm going to have to swap it out with one that has a little more balls.


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