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Old 06-16-2016, 05:51 AM
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Can Someone Give me Some Advice - Not Sure on the Settings to Charge the LiPo.

I have no idea at all :-(



I have the Charger and the Batteries.
Charger is:

Carson 606066 Expert Charger Station 10A

Batteries are:

Floureon 5500mAh 3S 35C 11.1V LiPo RC BATTERY EC3



Heres what it says about the charger:

The CARSON Expert Charger Station is an innovative computer charger with many professional features. It charges all battery types from 1 V to 20 V with 0.1 to 10 A. This handy charger is extremely powerful and is suitable for conventional NiMH / lead-acid batteries as well as for advanced lithium batteries (LiIon / LiPo / LiFe) and is also a high-tech instrument for the battery power level. Highlight is the memory function, can be data easily saved and recalled with up to five battery (charging). The clear, blue backlit LCD display provides information on battery voltage, current charge current, charging time and charged capacity. The balancer ensures that all cells in LiPo packs have the same cut-off voltage. The Expert Charger Station is extensively equipped and very user-friendly.
Features:
- up to 10 A charge current
- large, blue backlit LCD display
- loading / unloading
- LiPo / LiIon / LiFe 1-6 cells
- PSU Function 3-24 V
- 12 V or 230 V connection
- including Balancer, Tamiya. T-plug charger
Delivery:
charger EXPERT CHARGER STATION 10A Balancing adapters XHP, charging cable T-plug, charging cable Tamiya plug, manual DEU / ENG.

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[TD="width: 405"]Technical details:
• Input voltage: 230 V or 11-18 V
• charging current: 0,1 - 10 A Delta-Peak cut-off (max 80 W).
• 1C-car charging current at input capacity
• discharge current 0.1 to 2.0 A (max 6 west. )
for cell voltage 3.0 • Entladestromabschaltung selectable - 4.0V
. • 5 cycles NiMH / NiCd battery Refresh (conditioning) load discharged / od unload / load
• battery storage function increases the service life of batteries
• display of single cell voltage and total
• clear LCD display
• backlight with automatic switch-off (0 - 10 min.)
• 1-6 cells Li-XX (Li-ion / polymer / -Eisenoxyd)
• 1-16 cells NiMH (nickel metal hydride), NiCd
• 1 -10 cells lead batteries (Pb), 2.45 to 24.5 V
• integrated balancer, +/- 0.01V tolerance, 250 mA current balance
• 4 mm charge sockets
• incl. gilded Tamiya / T-plug charging cables
• XHP adapter Board
• digital power supply function from 3.0 to 24.0 V for example for tire grinding
• aluminum housing
• weight: about 640 g
• size: 145 x 145 x 56 mm

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1.Read up on basic understanding of LiPo batteries and their safe handling. Lots of places to find info.
Here are just two:

Everything you need to know about LiPo batteries...

A Guide to Understanding LiPo Batteries

2.Balance charge at a 1C charging rate is as basic as I can get. If you don't understand what balance charging does, or charging rates, go back to #1.
3.Read the manual, and then, if you still don't understand, come back to ask more specific questions.
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I know its very confusing and dry especially when you start but Rusty is right. The lipo can be VERY dangerous if its not treated properly and with respect. Take the time to learn all that you can and even take some time to watch a video or two of what they look like when they explode or catch fire and you will understand why good hobbiests (is that a word? Hobby guys then..) always preach safe lipo handling. As always someone will always be here to fill any blanks that you come across, just let us know how we can help! Welcome to the forum btw!
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I was trying not to sound rude in my post. It's just that if I were to sit here and try to lead someone, step by step workings of a four button charger, I'd be here all day typing away. Instruction manuals, though not always having the best *input your language here* translations, will normally give you steps to follow for each and every type of battery chemistry.
Old 06-16-2016, 11:05 AM
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I didn't think you were rude at all! I hope i didn't make it sound like you were! This info isn't very exciting to most people lol aside from us rc nerds and even then i fall asleep from time to time.
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Nothing rude or abrupt at all there Rusty.

I read the guides you provided, plus some others i found across the internet.
Actually its not so complicated. Brings me back to my first year training as an electrician where i was doing battery backup for data centres.

However, the 2nd guide you provided where the guy strongly advises against Parallel Charging LiPo's. Im a little confused about this.
All over the web, everyone is parallel charging. -- Is the guide outdated?

I have a Parallel Charging / Balancing board also, and i did plan to connect all 3x 3S 5500mah batteries to it at once and just charge them togetrher. Purely to make things easier than keep swapping the batteries on the charger.

I understand that my charger is not powerful enough to charge all three at 1C in Parallel. But I can charge them slower.

Not quite sure where the limitation comes from?
10Amps or 80W as my charger is rated.

Using the online calculator, i get the following stats for my setup requirements

[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]Desired Charge Rate:[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD="align: right"]16.5 Amps[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Series Cell Count Required:[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3S (12.6 Volts)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Charger Power Required:[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[TD="align: right"]207.9 Watts
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
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Originally Posted by gaz_0001
Nothing rude or abrupt at all there Rusty.

I read the guides you provided, plus some others i found across the internet.
Actually its not so complicated. Brings me back to my first year training as an electrician where i was doing battery backup for data centres.

However, the 2nd guide you provided where the guy strongly advises against Parallel Charging LiPo's. Im a little confused about this.
All over the web, everyone is parallel charging. -- Is the guide outdated?

I have a Parallel Charging / Balancing board also, and i did plan to connect all 3x 3S 5500mah batteries to it at once and just charge them togetrher. Purely to make things easier than keep swapping the batteries on the charger.

I understand that my charger is not powerful enough to charge all three at 1C in Parallel. But I can charge them slower.

Not quite sure where the limitation comes from?
10Amps or 80W as my charger is rated.

Using the online calculator, i get the following stats for my setup requirements

[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]Desired Charge Rate:[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]16.5 Amps[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Series Cell Count Required:[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3S (12.6 Volts)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Charger Power Required:[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]207.9 Watts[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
WOW! 16.5 amps? What kinda calculator did you use?

They got the cell count right, but 16.5 amps is extremely overkill. At most, I would charge at 1C, like Rusty said, so that means 5.5 Amps charge rate at the most. Probably go with 5 Amps or 5.2 Amps to be safe though.
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Floureon 5500mAh 3S 35C 11.1V LiPo RC BATTERY EC3

Charge current (1S) 5.5A
Fully charged voltage 4.2v per cell 3x4.2=12.6v
Storage voltage 3.8x3=11.4v
Discharged voltage 3.2x3= 9.6v

Charge time depends upon the basic charge time plus whatever
balance time is needed. Always balance charge for long life and safety.
The charge time is usually between 1/2 to 3/4 hour.
Remember that the discharged battery should not be left in that condition.
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Originally Posted by gaz_0001
Nothing rude or abrupt at all there Rusty.

I read the guides you provided, plus some others i found across the internet.
Actually its not so complicated. Brings me back to my first year training as an electrician where i was doing battery backup for data centres.

However, the 2nd guide you provided where the guy strongly advises against Parallel Charging LiPo's. Im a little confused about this.
All over the web, everyone is parallel charging. -- Is the guide outdated?

I have a Parallel Charging / Balancing board also, and i did plan to connect all 3x 3S 5500mah batteries to it at once and just charge them togetrher. Purely to make things easier than keep swapping the batteries on the charger.

I understand that my charger is not powerful enough to charge all three at 1C in Parallel. But I can charge them slower.

Not quite sure where the limitation comes from?
10Amps or 80W as my charger is rated.

Using the online calculator, i get the following stats for my setup requirements

[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]Desired Charge Rate:[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]16.5 Amps[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Series Cell Count Required:[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]3S (12.6 Volts)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Charger Power Required:[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD="align: right"]207.9 Watts[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
I didn't know that you used to work as an electrician, if that's the case then you shouldn't have any problems grasping this stuff. Most guys start head scratching when you get to cell count and discharge rates lol
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Originally Posted by chuckk2
Floureon 5500mAh 3S 35C 11.1V LiPo RC BATTERY EC3

Charge current (1S) 5.5A
Fully charged voltage 4.2v per cell 3x4.2=12.6v
Storage voltage 3.8x3=11.4v
Discharged voltage 3.2x3= 9.6v

Charge time depends upon the basic charge time plus whatever
balance time is needed. Always balance charge for long life and safety.
The charge time is usually between 1/2 to 3/4 hour.
Remember that the discharged battery should not be left in that condition.
The balancing time took me a while to get used to since my charger sounds different when it's balancing vs charging so i would hear the charger quiet down and then it would just sit there for 40 mins in near silence until it said done. Had to look it up to figure out that there were two steps to take. Thought i killed my batteries the first time around since it seemed like they weren't doing anything for so long.

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