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80 Flights on a Flight Pack: Is this Normal?

Old 01-02-2006, 09:03 PM
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Default 80 Flights on a Flight Pack: Is this Normal?

I have a 7C Cheap Battery Packs 1150 mah 2/3 A Nimh with Ultra Deans connectors that looks like is on its way out after 80 flights. Would this be considered a poor, average or good lifespan for a flight pack?

I log my flights so I know that it:

Has 80 flights on it averaging 16 minutes,
therefore has been discharging for for just over 21 hours at approximately 4 - 5 amps.
It's been charged at 200mA on a Great Planes AC Park Flyer charger.

Thanks.
Old 01-03-2006, 01:10 PM
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Default RE: 80 Flights on a Flight Pack: Is this Normal?

I was waiting for people who knew more about batteries to answer this. But since nobody did I'd say it is not normal. Especially since you charged it at such a low rate. Now if you discharged at a higher rate than it can handle that might be a reason. If the battery is selected and used properly it should last you years.
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Default RE: 80 Flights on a Flight Pack: Is this Normal?

Thanks for taking a crack at it, JoeAirPort. I actually have two of these packs and the other one, bought at the same time, is tired too.

With this one particular pack though, I took off and landed right away because I thought I had put a discharged pack in it. Not the case. I took it home and charged it. I put 130 mAh into it even though this pack was fully charged 4 hours earlier.

Anyone else?
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Default RE: 80 Flights on a Flight Pack: Is this Normal?

I think you will find that battery packs are good for 500 plus discharge cycles. Packs go bad for all sorts of mysterious other reasons than discharge cycles.

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Default RE: 80 Flights on a Flight Pack: Is this Normal?

BillS,

I have 4 of the same pack. The two I bought first are both tired compared to the new ones. I thought I'd get more cycles out of them too. Makes me think maybe I should have spent the extra few dollars and got the GP cells rather than the house brand.

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Cells without a manufacturer’s name and capacity are likely rejects from a production run. The rejects get into the black market and the unscrupulous sell them as good product. You might want to check for name and capacity. The packs that I have made from unmarked cells always measured less mah than rated capacity. Makes me uncomfortable.

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Default RE: 80 Flights on a Flight Pack: Is this Normal?

Thanks, BillS.

If cycling my battery doesn't revive it, I'll take off the shrink wrap and look at what's under the wrap.

I will update this thread in a few days after the cycling. Takes a while with a 1150mah pack at .2A discharge and .1A charge!



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Default RE: 80 Flights on a Flight Pack: Is this Normal?

Buy cheap - buy twice they say. In 20 years flying nearly all my unmarked/unlabelled cells have failed faster than those labelled Sanyo and so on. There is a major UK Distributor whom supply unmarked cells and they are just not worth having...
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Default RE: 80 Flights on a Flight Pack: Is this Normal?

Test results are in.

After cycling the battery 4 times (200mA discharge, 100mA charge), it is performing a bit better than it was before, but not great either.

I’m wondering if I could have done something to make them happier. I did usually fly them in my Estarter until they were showing signs of tiredness. I may have hit LVC a couple of times with a GWS ESC with a cutoff of 4.2V. I’ve always been nice to them charging. Never at 1C, a couple of times at C/2 and mostly at C/5….

Never-the-less, I think I'll be taking Marcellus' advice, Buy cheap - buy twice, and get a name brand cell next time.

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