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Old 11-07-2005, 06:40 AM
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Default Difference between Giant, Mammoth and normal scale?

Hello

As the topic suggests, I would like to know the difference between normal scale, Mammoth scale and Giant scale. I understand in Australia an aircraft to be called Mammoth sized means it needs a wingspan of 80" or more. Is this true for the rest of the world? Is it a wingspan measure or a weight measure?

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Old 11-07-2005, 06:53 AM
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Default RE: Difference between Giant, Mammoth and normal scale?

In the USA, "large or giant" scale is usually considered to be IMAA rules - 60" for multiwing planes, and 80" for single wing planes. There are, of course, planes that are MUCH larger than this. Take a look at some British websites to see really BIG planes.

It's relative and subjective, depending on your experience and outlook. My Fokker Dr.1 is IMAA legal at 72", and is allowed at "giant scale" meets, but it certainly is not a large plane, by any standards.

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Default RE: Difference between Giant, Mammoth and normal scale?

I am not sure what difference it makes as far as what you call the plane. Every kit or arf has the measurements listed right on the box. Besides I have a sailplane that has a 2 meter wing span and I would never call it a mammoth airplane.

I have never seen Mammoth here in the states but I think they go by weight when naming it scale or whatever else.
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Default RE: Difference between Giant, Mammoth and normal scale?

Typically the word scale is used to mean several things.

Scale = Warbird type planes (looks and shape and size)
Scale = size and shape
Scale = size, shape and weight

Size is also relative, just ask your girlfriend/wife...ooopppsss wrong subject [&:]

Anyway, lets take a scale sized Ultimate 10-300 as an example. The real thing is very small. So to have a "scale" sized Ultimate 10-300 like Wildhare, Hangar9 and Goldberg make, the plane is going to be relatively small compared to an Extra 330 or 300 or the Sukhoi, Edge and others.

Also, planes that have shrunk down in scale to fly well for R/C most likely have had changes done like more rudder, bigger ailerons, longer fuselage so as such they are not "true scale". The big thing is 3D and allot of planes cannot do 3D without "enhancements" to the rudder, ailerons and elevators.

Like Exter said, the wallet has tons to do with it. Just look at what some guys are doing over in the UK. Scale size 747's A380 Airbus, DC-10, L-1011, B-52's and on and on.
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Would you call these Giant scale??!!!!!













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Default RE: Difference between Giant, Mammoth and normal scale?

Back on topic, thanks for your posts

Dr1Driver thats the type of info I was looking for eg the rules of planes being in different scale catagorys. So for a biplane to be classified giant scale it has to have a 60" wingspan and a monoplane 80". We have a giant scale R/C airshow where I live and a guy told me they have to be 80" (i'd assume for the monoplane). After large or giant scale is there an even bigger catagory which the models I posted above fit in?

Thanks for everyones help.


For more great massive R/C pics go to

http://www.rcflug.de/galerien/lf2004/lf2004.html

From

http://www.rcflug.de/ger_index.htm - German site
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I'd call those something I need a bib so I could look at. All those beautiful planes make me want to drool!! Very very nice aircraft!! And before anybody makes a smart comment about it, yes the lady was pretty too. But since I'm married I'd rather fly the planes!!!!

Ken
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Yeah, I would think a small child could fit in the Fokker DR1 or Pitts and go for a fly!!!
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I believe that GeeBee is the same one that was at Toldeo this year and if so, IT IS HUGE.....

I'll bet they do not measure the servos is those planes in inch pounds, more like foot pounds of torque
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That first guy should've been more careful where he landed that big glider! That's gotta hurt!
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Default RE: Difference between Giant, Mammoth and normal scale?

These measurements are only guidelines, Panzerd. For IMAA (International Miniature Aircraft Association) sanctioned events here in the USA, the rule is 60" for multiwing and 80" for single wing. Different organizations and countries may have different standards.

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Default RE: Difference between Giant, Mammoth and normal scale?

For IMAA (International Miniature Aircraft Association) sanctioned events here in the USA, the rule is 60" for multiwing and 80" for single wing. Different organizations and countries may have different standards.
The International Miniature Aircraft Association sanctioned events are alike the world over. Hence the name and purpose. "Giant" scale is defined as 60" Bipe, 80" Mono (whether it is a "scale model" of a "real" aircraft or no), smaller if it is at least quarter-scale (like the Shoestring pylon racer, for example) of a man-carrying plane that flew at least once.
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That's good to know, Charlie. I've never been outside the USA, so I can't speak for other countries.

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If there is a Mammoth class, I think you just found it, Those are some incredible looking planes, just awesome!![sm=thumbup.gif][sm=thumbup.gif][sm=thumbup.gif][sm=thumbup.gif][sm=thumbup.gif]


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dude that #6 bipe could be a full scale plane with some mods.......ive seen real planes that arent that big good god. My bets, they took a real aircraft radial for that...


Oh and Bubba, for the sake of not being band im going to curb comments on your comment using the words "bubba's" and "mother"
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Here are a few more big ones

Once again from

http://www.rcflug.de/







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does the 262 have real turbine in it? thanks i like it but would rather have the new house it costs......
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ORIGINAL: txaggie08

Oh and Bubba, for the sake of not being band im going to curb comments on your comment using the words "bubba's" and "mother"
I'd may have to ban myself just for saying what I said
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Default RE: Difference between Giant, Mammoth and normal scale?

Well panzer.. you got the MAmmoth size explained for us [&:]

Besides the size of the wing, there are also weight restrictions. In the USA you can't fly anything over 50 lbs without FAA aproval and special permit. I think across the channel you can go up to 100 lbs without a permit, but you have to register your license or something to that effect, because over that weight they are treated as full size airplanes with the regulatons.
Down here in Honduras.. there are no regulations.. but no mammoths either
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Default RE: Difference between Giant, Mammoth and normal scale?

In the USA you can't fly anything over 50 lbs without FAA aproval and special permit.
I think you are referring to AMA restrictions. But regardless I don't think they make them that big in the USA , at least none I have seen so far.


Nice birds , but using your feet to hold that sucker looks really dangerous . Invest in some wheel chocks and put everyone at ease.
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Default RE: Difference between Giant, Mammoth and normal scale?

ive seen an extra that was that large. 54% i beleive. He hasnt flown it yet as far as i know(the field in beaumont is pretty trashed form the storm right now anyways)

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