Calling all 4-star owners
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Calling all 4-star owners
I need a favor from someone who owns a STOCK Sig 4* (40 or 60 but with no major modifications)
I would like you to take two pictures of it: a direct top shot and a direct side shot, so that I can create an illustration similar to the Ultra Sport below.
Thanks!
I would like you to take two pictures of it: a direct top shot and a direct side shot, so that I can create an illustration similar to the Ultra Sport below.
Thanks!
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RE: Calling all 4-star owners
ORIGINAL: RCKen
And before you ask, yes I may be building one!!! Just not sure when I'm going to start it quite yet. Planning on buidling a 4-Star 120 with a MLD-28 gas engine on it.
Ken
And before you ask, yes I may be building one!!! Just not sure when I'm going to start it quite yet. Planning on buidling a 4-Star 120 with a MLD-28 gas engine on it.
Ken
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RE: Calling all 4-star owners
ORIGINAL: Mr67Stang
I love mine (4 Star 120) with the Evolution 26 GT on it. The MLD 28 ought to be very nice. I did clip one bay off each wing and enlarged all control surfaces including replacing the aileron stock it came with. And it still flies nice and stable.
ORIGINAL: RCKen
And before you ask, yes I may be building one!!! Just not sure when I'm going to start it quite yet. Planning on buidling a 4-Star 120 with a MLD-28 gas engine on it.
Ken
And before you ask, yes I may be building one!!! Just not sure when I'm going to start it quite yet. Planning on buidling a 4-Star 120 with a MLD-28 gas engine on it.
Ken
Ken
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RE: Calling all 4-star owners
Well, with the tail feather stretched 1.25 in including adding 1.25 in cap strip/counterbalance to the top of the rudder and .5 inch stretch to the ailerons at the root tappering to a .25 in stretch at the tip a properly propped 4 star 120 hold an impresive hover and can perform all pattern aerobatics. I am still dialing in the right thrust as I had to use a good bit of rudder trim to get a good virtical upline without pulling to the left. I hope my weather clears soon so I can see if the shims behind my engine mount have corrected this.
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RE: Calling all 4-star owners
Modding the tailfeathers helps a bunch with knife edge .All the 4 Stars I,ve flown , tuck to the belly when doing knife edge. The best mod you can do IMHO is taking one bay out of the wing , as your planing to do.
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RE: Calling all 4-star owners
Here's what I did to one of my .40 size 4-stars (I've built 3)...
-Enalarged, stick-built tail surfaces with an altered shape
-Sheeted turtle deck with revised angle.
-Wing clipped one bay on each side with rounded tips, stick built ailerons and dual aileron servos. I also cut my own wing ribs 1/16" undersized so I could sheet the leading edge and add cap strips. I believe I changed the rib spacing as well, using fewer of them.
-Side mounted engine with a balsa cowl
If I were to do it again, I would not stick build the tail. I ended up with a nose-heave plane and had to put the battery all the way in the back. That was a 40 size of course, the 1.20 might be completely different.
I think one of the things holding the 4-star back from good knife-edge (the 40 size anyhow) is a lack of good side area on the fuselage. If I were to build another I think I'd alter the turtle deck even more and maybe even change the profile between the canopy and turtle deck to make it a little taller there too. That being said, both of my Super Sportsters are a similar profile and they knife-edge with ease so I could be wrong.
I have mixed emotions about the MLD-28. I have one and it has tons of power at wide open throttle and it will idle fairly well. Transitions and mid-range are difficult to get right though compared to my other gas engines which just seem to run perfect. In my opinion the carburetor is too big for the engine. Of course if you just bury the throttle then it really isn't an issue. Mine is over a year old though so the newer versions might be much better. One inexpensive engine that I am really impressed with is the XYZ-26cc from Hobby City.
Keep the 4-star progress posted, I've never buitl a 1.20 and I'm interested to see it.
-Enalarged, stick-built tail surfaces with an altered shape
-Sheeted turtle deck with revised angle.
-Wing clipped one bay on each side with rounded tips, stick built ailerons and dual aileron servos. I also cut my own wing ribs 1/16" undersized so I could sheet the leading edge and add cap strips. I believe I changed the rib spacing as well, using fewer of them.
-Side mounted engine with a balsa cowl
If I were to do it again, I would not stick build the tail. I ended up with a nose-heave plane and had to put the battery all the way in the back. That was a 40 size of course, the 1.20 might be completely different.
I think one of the things holding the 4-star back from good knife-edge (the 40 size anyhow) is a lack of good side area on the fuselage. If I were to build another I think I'd alter the turtle deck even more and maybe even change the profile between the canopy and turtle deck to make it a little taller there too. That being said, both of my Super Sportsters are a similar profile and they knife-edge with ease so I could be wrong.
I have mixed emotions about the MLD-28. I have one and it has tons of power at wide open throttle and it will idle fairly well. Transitions and mid-range are difficult to get right though compared to my other gas engines which just seem to run perfect. In my opinion the carburetor is too big for the engine. Of course if you just bury the throttle then it really isn't an issue. Mine is over a year old though so the newer versions might be much better. One inexpensive engine that I am really impressed with is the XYZ-26cc from Hobby City.
Keep the 4-star progress posted, I've never buitl a 1.20 and I'm interested to see it.
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RE: Calling all 4-star owners
ORIGINAL: RCKen
With those mods to the tail feathers how does it knife edge?????
Ken
With those mods to the tail feathers how does it knife edge?????
Ken
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ORIGINAL: Mr67Stang
Thought I could add some pictures for you Ken. You should recognize the inspiration for the covering scheam.
Thought I could add some pictures for you Ken. You should recognize the inspiration for the covering scheam.
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RE: Calling all 4-star owners
This may sound like a dumb question but if you don't know well you don't know. When you are referring to clipping one bay off the wing where do you do it at. Where they join I assume but you all know what happens when you assume. I have a 4*60 and wonder how hard it would be to go back and make this mod/
Thanks
Derrick
Thanks
Derrick
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RE: Calling all 4-star owners
ORIGINAL: DGUY
This may sound like a dumb question but if you don't know well you don't know. When you are referring to clipping one bay off the wing where do you do it at. Where they join I assume but you all know what happens when you assume. I have a 4*60 and wonder how hard it would be to go back and make this mod/
Thanks
Derrick
This may sound like a dumb question but if you don't know well you don't know. When you are referring to clipping one bay off the wing where do you do it at. Where they join I assume but you all know what happens when you assume. I have a 4*60 and wonder how hard it would be to go back and make this mod/
Thanks
Derrick