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LargeScale88 09-26-2010 09:10 AM

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Glad you could fix it up. It looks like a very nice airplane. Kinda like a big stick, at least the top wing with no dihedral part of does.<hr />http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...bananahead.gif

LargeScale88 09-26-2010 09:11 AM

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Actually no, I looked at the picture wrong. its not a high winger. I guess Ineed to look closer.http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...unge_smile.gif

cutaway 09-26-2010 03:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: summerwind
Jeeez.....you do realize that Chuck is doing this to give inside tips to beginners on how to repair and maintain their planes right?
he is being quite generous with his time. anyone who has done a build thread can tell it takes almost as much time to do the thread as it does the build.
Chuck is also the kind of guy that he is likely to give this plane to someone for free and has no interest in making money on it................
The OP explicitly stated this repair was to be done for resale. I can only go by the words people write. If they mean something other than what they write, I'm not a mind reader.

summerwind 09-26-2010 03:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: cutaway


ORIGINAL: summerwind
Jeeez.....you do realize that Chuck is doing this to give inside tips to beginners on how to repair and maintain their planes right?
he is being quite generous with his time. anyone who has done a build thread can tell it takes almost as much time to do the thread as it does the build.
Chuck is also the kind of guy that he is likely to give this plane to someone for free and has no interest in making money on it................
The OP explicitly stated this repair was to be done for resale. I can only go by the words people write. If they mean something other than what they write, I'm not a mind reader.

you're RIGHT!!.....how dare he for taking advantage of this great site by taking the time to post a "how to" thread for beginners, and then using it for financial gain.........what is this sport coming too?[:-]

cutaway 09-26-2010 05:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: summerwind
you're RIGHT!!.....how dare he for taking advantage of this great site by taking the time to post a ''how to'' thread for beginners, and then using it for financial gain.....
Red herring.

I didn't say anything about the repair, the viability of using it for financial gain other than saying it wouldn't be worth much, or this fellows altruistic nature. I made a simple declarative statement about the worth of a used airframe such as this one.

Stop being a jerk and reading more into what I wrote than I actually wrote. Words matter. Read them.

summerwind 09-26-2010 06:47 PM

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Chuck,

let me know if you guys decide to sell this one.....i'm looking for a plane for one of my 40FSR's.

-mike

ChuckW 09-26-2010 08:02 PM

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The goal is to have it at the club swap meet in October.If it is, the price will be very reasonable;If I get enough to buy a servo or two, a gallon or two of fuel or whatever that's good enough for me.

Still have to edit the wing pictures. Between flying, the lawn and the gym today, I just haven't had time to sit down and do it.

I was looking through my box of covering last night. If I go ahead and use my remnants without buying anything new, it might end up looking like the Partridge family bus. I think I might have some flat olive drab in the closet though. If I do, I might do a pseudo-military covering job.<br type="_moz" />

jeffie8696 09-26-2010 11:24 PM

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Iwas thinking of doing that with a 60 size Ugly Stick. I have some OD green and white and thought a Japanese Zero scheme might look decent.
The covering on the big ugly is well, ugly.

ChuckW 09-26-2010 11:29 PM

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I might even have enough red, white and black to do the P-40 style sharks mouth. I will see.

flygilmore 09-27-2010 01:45 PM

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ORIGINAL: cutaway

Used Skyraiders with LA's are a dime a dozen.

Don't get your hopes up on this being a big score on resale. $5 for a running LA ain't a bad deal, but the airframe itself has little value unless you plan to fly it. You'll probably have more $$$ invested in new covering and time than you'd get for the airframe.


Ahhhh whatever dude, you're missing the whole point!!!!

cutaway 09-27-2010 05:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: flygilmore
Ahhhh whatever dude, you're missing the whole point!!!!
What "point" would that be? That I make a single non-critical comment and get jumped on by (now) several people trying to suggest I've said things I didn't? Is that the point?

I "get" that this is a beginners forum. I also "get" that it might be useful information to tell beginners what the real world value of a kinda busted trash plane like a Skyraider is, so they don't invest much in an albatross unless its just a labor of love they intend to fly and not resell.

I "get" that the OP is a great guy, and stands beside Mother Theresa altrusistically.

So what aren't I getting? I'll tell you - I can't fracking figure out why you guys keep attacking.

noveldoc 09-27-2010 06:30 PM

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People, can we please discuss RC aircraft and leave the personal crap out of this thread? Like maybe follow posted RCU policies?

Tom

ChuckW 09-27-2010 06:30 PM

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OK... enough of the stupid internet bickering. This is a beginners forum intended to help people starting out in the hobby. Discussions like the ones going on are absolutely not productive and discourage people from asking legitimate questions and enjoying a great hobby.

Cutaway... Iunderstand your original point and I don't necessarilly disagree with you. The manner in which you stated it though wasn't very productive or helpful for soemone trying to pick up good information. That's why a couple people probably seemed to jump on you. Getting in an argument with someone you've never met behind a computer screen several thousand miles away is really a waste of time.

If you have anything productive to offer regarding the subject of repairing common airplane damage or resurecting an old plane, please join in. Otherwise, stay out of the thread.

noveldoc 09-27-2010 06:50 PM

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The productive part inspired me. Gonna build a new tail birdcage for my cracked up Kadet Seniorita.

BTW had some left over Moneycoat so I did her in a WWII Brit trainer scheme. Tan and green camo on top and yellow underneath. Looked kinda neat.

Tom

ChuckW 09-27-2010 09:57 PM

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Sorry no updated information or pictures. It is starting off to be a very busy week so I've only been able to sit at the computer for a couple minutes here and there. Wednesday night is free though so I will edit the wing pictures and post the progress.

summerwind 09-28-2010 09:40 AM

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Chuck,

i forgot until now that i have 2 rolls of White Monokote that i have been trying to give away via our club site.
probably not the color you want, but the rolls are new.
no one seems to want free Monokote these days:D

davidgeorge212 09-28-2010 09:53 AM

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ORIGINAL: summerwind

Chuck,

i forgot until now that i have 2 rolls of White Monokote that i have been trying to give away via our club site.
probably not the color you want, but the rolls are new.
no one seems to want free Monokote these days:D

Ill take your rolls of monokote any day, send them to me.

ChuckW 09-28-2010 11:02 AM

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Imay take you up on that when it comes time to cover. I know what I want to do with my scraps but I may not have enough which would force me to change the plans.

noveldoc 09-28-2010 07:13 PM

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Chuck,

Do the camo on top with your scraps and do solid white or pale blue underneath fuse, horiz stab and wing.

Tom

rambler53 09-29-2010 08:36 AM

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ORIGINAL: cutaway

Used Skyraiders with LA's are a dime a dozen.

Don't get your hopes up on this being a big score on resale. $5 for a running LA ain't a bad deal, but the airframe itself has little value unless you plan to fly it. You'll probably have more $$$ invested in new covering and time than you'd get for the airframe.
But everyone knows that ever flew one, it's a great flying plane, and if it were mine, I'd sell it in parts, always getting more that way. LA 40/46 $35, airframe $40, flight pack $30. Even if they talk you down a little, you're ahead. I'd have patched it with packing tape and went flying that afternoon, if it was mine. It's a nice plane, don't get discouraged. Covering is $12.99 a roll at a LHS, and you'll have plenty left over for the next project. Nice to get some free too!

I picked up a kit built ACE 4-40 biplane at an RC swap meet a couple years back. It flies great. Without negotiating, I paid $20. Saito 65 added separately. My kid stepped on the stabilizer last week, but that's OK, it's only a toy airplane sitting in the living room. I guess I'll start needed repairs now too. Thanks for posting your work!


ChuckW 09-29-2010 08:42 PM

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OK, wing pictures as promised. Basically it just had on missing wing tip trailing edge block, a broken rib and several loose glue joints.
  1. To make the new trailing edge block, I looked at the one on the other side. It is basically a balsa block with the grain running parallel to the span with sheeting running perpendicular on both sides.
  2. I had a perfect balsa block left over from an old kit or something as well as some scrap 3/32 and 1/16 sheeting.
  3. I glued the sheeting to the new block just like the original.
  4. The new block gets glued to the wing.
  5. After rough carving with an X-Acto and a final sanding to get the shape right, the new wing tip block is in place and as good as or better than the original.
  6. This broken rig needs to get fixed.
  7. I could have gotten fancy but I just glued the rib back to the shear web and added a piece of 3/32 balsa to fill the gap from the missing chunk of wood. Not necessarily pretty but easy and more than good enough. I also put a little thick CA into the crack near the front of the rib.
  8. After hitting all the loose glue joints with CA, the wing is ready for a final sanding and covering.
Now it is on to stripping the covering from the fuselage and fixing whatever I find wrong.<br type="_moz" /><br type="_moz" />

ChuckW 10-11-2010 11:26 PM

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Been a while without an update. Basically all the repairs are finished except for the fuel tank and line setup. I got started on the covering using rolls of flat olive drab and gray Monokote left over from other projects. I decided not to post all the covering details since there are already good instructions here on RCUniverse:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...?article_id=67

http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=726

Here are a couple pictures of the top and bottom of the wing. I did spring for some stars &amp; bars decals. They were just a few bucks. I just noticed a wrinkle in one of them in the picture; stuff happens. I am scrambling to get this airplane finished in time for the club swap meet this Sunday.

My new project also arrived tonight. it's a Top-Flite giant scale P-47 ready-to-cover. Should be fun.


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blueapplepaste 10-12-2010 02:30 PM

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Nice job. I think this will be very helpful for others. Nice job showing what a little TLC can do for a plane.

ChuckW 10-13-2010 11:02 PM

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Finally finished up the covering. It was a rush job so it isn't perfect but a heck of a lot better than when I first saw the airplane. I really wanted to do the shark's mouth but I did not have enough covering scraps of the right color plus I am running out of time.

Now to clean out the fuel tank &amp; fix the lines, re-install the engine, put in a battery &amp; temporary receiver then test run it.

Looks like I will just make it in time for the club swap meet on Sunday.

Picture shows what a mess my garage has turned into. After this one is done it is cleaning time.<br type="_moz" />

ChuckW 10-13-2010 11:04 PM

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Also have to install a canopy. Local hobby shop ordered one from world Models but it won't be available in time. I found a similar one for a Tower Uproar ARF. Less than $3 and should look OK.


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