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ORIGINAL: JohnBuckner The old timer you asked about is a Kerswap from plans and I flew it for years with an OS .20 and even with coke bottle floats but now it is flying with an MVVS .15 diesel. John Good for you to keep up with the hobby you obviously love, John. |
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G'day John
I was mentored briefly when I was learning about 20 years ago by an older bloke who sadly had now died. I am pretty sure he had Kerswap at one stage. I am pretty sure that there is a plan and short form kit available for it from our local laser cutting person so I think I will be looking to get one. I have several Taipan 2.5cc diesels and one would be great in something like that. I like the nice simple fuse - I did have a Playboy Senior many years ago and the fuse on it was quite complex. Or possibly I could put a Saito 30 on it? Hmmm. Thanks for the inspiration. Mike in Oz |
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i think it depends on the club you fly at. the one i fly at is not well regulated. there is no control of who can fly only when certain types of planes fly (15-60 size, 120 size and larger and turbine). there's no guarantee that people that fly can really fly. plus just next to the larger plane pits, foamies fly unchecked. it is not rare for planes to come hurtling down full throttle toward the pits. i wouldn't think that being in a chair (unless you have to be) would not be beneficial to your health!
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ORIGINAL: JohnBuckner Campgem, Lnewqban, Mike 109 and High Plains thanks to all of you and others for the support. All model airplanes' enthusiasts thank your enthusiasm and example of going over difficulties, which does much for this hobbie that we all enjoy. That quad sounds great in the video.[sm=thumbs_up.gif] |
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I think if you have to sit in a chair for medical reasons..knees, back, etc then I'm all for it, go fly and have fun.....
However to sit in a chair because you believe it will help you fly better...then I say nope...for the safety reason....it's quicker to jump out of the way from an out of control aircraft when standing than sitting...... We have a few disabled pilots at our field....just last week one of them was sitting and flying when his chair was hit.....good thing it wasn't his legs |
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I always bring my swivel chair when I fly control line planes.
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One of the old timers at our club cannot fly standing due to hip problems, If he has to look straight up he will fall backwards. We have several of the Adirondack type chairs at the field that he, or anyone else can use. He has been flying models since before I was born (I am almost 50) and it is great fun to watch him fly. Some of the chairs are doubles and when I was learning from this gentleman, I tried sitting in the other chair, It seemed a little awkward to me so I chose to stand behind him, so that I didn't obstruct his view either.
And John, thanks for the inspiring pics. I knew from past threads that you used a chair, but I never dreamed that you flew C/L from it. Keep at it!! |
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Occasionally, I fly with my 'Flight Seat', which is essentially a glorified buddy-box with aircraft-like physical controls. This is a 'fly-by-wire' system with the buddy-box stick potentiometers co-located with the physical controls; with this setup there is virtually no slop/ambiguity between the physical controls and the signal being transmitted to the aircraft.
The Flight Seat allows the pilot to have a more realistic flight experience; closer to the full-scale and is definitely more relaxing than standing. These were being produced in small numbers from a company in Phoenix Arizona called Interactive Flight Concepts around 2000 to 2003. I have redesigned my Flight Seat, which has been highly modified from the original. I have also designed a method of transporting the devise, which does not take up valuable cargo space; a simple receiver hitch adaptation allows the device to be stowed for transport or removed for use with very little effort. The Flight Seat is great fun and very rewarding to use. Joe |
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Chairs are ok.. but you just need to remember to remove them from the flight line when done. A couple of years ago, one of our instructors took a chair to the line to relax while a new member worked over the buddy box. They finished up and went back to the pits. Bit later, one of the members was on the line flying, and I was watching his plane as he made a low pass over the field. Suddenly the plane made some erratic up and down manuvers. On the last oscillation the plane went down behind some small trees and scrub brush, that wasn't any taller that 6-7 ft. For an instant all seemed doomed. Then just as suddenly it popped up from behind the brush and went vertical. Best save I've ever seen. Turns out, as the pilot was flying and watching his plane, he was slowly walking down the flight line. Yeah.. he didn't see it and tripped over the chair!
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That is a cool chair, Joe Dirr[sm=thumbs_up.gif]
............and I did think that I had seen everything!! |
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The first flight chair was back in 1968 and used at the Nat's that year with a Bonner radio.
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I can do it....but I don't like it. For whatever reason it just seems more natural to me to be standing.
In the workshop, I prefer to stand. When I am fishing...always standing. I've done these activities sitting, but don't feel as comfortable... Give it a try! See what you like... |
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Get one of these..
It had a Futaba 9C attached to the stick and real rudder pedals, and a real throttle. A blast to fly with! |
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The first time I tryed taking off and landing from a sitting position was tough for some reason but now I do it often with some planes.
I always bring a lazy boy type folding chair to the field. A buddy and I will fly our "Slow" fliers towards the end of the day, these will typically fly 20 to 30 minutes of casual, conversational flying. Typically just him and I so were not tieing up the flight line. Greatway to relax, talk and enjoy flight. Easy on the legs. |
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why isnt there a manufacturer making a "flight chair"?-it would have rudder pedals and a yoke or stick with gear, flap and mix switches on the yoke,and a throttle lever,kinda like the scale flight simulator contols you can get to plug into your computer and the inputs would run to a 2.4 Tx-made from a wheelchair, but since you would be using your feet for the rudders like scale, you would have to have a freind turn the chair toward the plane, unless you kept the plane in front of you, im sure there is somebody in the community that could put a prototype together and get futaba or spektrum or somebody to make it-there should be like a usb port in a regular Tx and you just plug the optional chair harness into the Tx-that way the Tx would be able to be used regularly without the chair...hmm....thinkin now........
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ok-im an idiot-guess they do
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At one time I used what I call a golf stool. It was a seat ( that folded down ) on a pole. My back had gotten so bad that I couldn't stand but a short time. After an operation I lost track of it, now I need to find another one.
I have to sit if we have long training sessions, otherwise I prefer to stand and I prefer to stand when landing. ENJOY !!! RED |
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ORIGINAL: aronph ok-im an idiot-guess they do :) That one was made for NASA.. who bought a couple of them. Their demo plane was a Corsair, if memory serves. Tony Frackowiak is providing "buddy-box" safety in case something went wrong. I disremember the manufacturer. |
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i wonder why the Tx manufacturers havent done something like this yet
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OMG I have never seeing somebody flying sitting, before today. And I belong to two clubs.
There are some old folks in one of my clubs but they all fly while satnding. That is the cool thing about this forum, John flying CL while in a wheel chair and the two flying chairs have me with a drop jaw.[X(] |
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I like to fly my planes standing up, and my helicopter sitting on my porch. I think its preference. One plus about standing up while flying is that you can get out of the way of a run away plane : )<div>-austin</div>
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When it's cold outside, I fly at my house more than I do the club field. If it's cold enough, I'll fly while sitting in my truck with the Tx antenna stuck out the window:D:D.
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I am a pilot, i fly real planes sitting down and model planes standing up!!!! i might swap!!!
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I have a bad back and am over 350 so find flying from a chair a necessity sometimes, but I'd rather stand, grin and bear it.
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i wanna see pics of you flying the scale one standing up!
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