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electricrc68 06-04-2011 05:37 AM

wingspan?
 
what is the wingspan range for a parkflyer?

CGRetired 06-04-2011 06:14 AM

RE: wingspan?
 
I don't think there is an actual range for wingspan for park flyers or any other type aircraft. Usually, when the manufacturer says "park flyer" then that's what it is. For instance, you can't say 36 inches because the Little Something Extra has that wing span but is not a park flyer, yet a foamie that is very light, with a 36 inch wingspan may be considered a park flyer and designed to fly in more confined spaces (ball parks, soccer fields, and so on) than something that really needs a runway. A 40 size glow trainer is a trainer as is a 60 size glow trainer. Both are glow powered trainers, but one is larger than the other.. a wider wingspan and a bigger engine.

CGr.

electricrc68 06-04-2011 06:28 AM

RE: wingspan?
 
oh okay thanks. so it doesn't really matter about the wingspan of the plane as long as it can be flown there without trouble?

electricrc68 06-04-2011 06:36 AM

RE: wingspan?
 
also, i have been seeing many planes i want that have a 27mhz transmitter. would it be fine to get one with a 27mhz?

noveldoc 06-04-2011 06:39 AM

RE: wingspan?
 
It is more a matter of weight and flying speed than wing span I think.

Tom

FILE IFR 06-04-2011 06:52 AM

RE: wingspan?
 

ORIGINAL: noveldoc

It is more a matter of weight and flying speed than wing span I think.

Tom
Bingo

No more than 2 pounds and a speed of no more than 60 MPH.

electricrc68 06-04-2011 07:38 AM

RE: wingspan?
 
okay thanks guys.

CGRetired 06-04-2011 08:23 AM

RE: wingspan?
 
We all just learned something. ;)

CGr.

electricrc68 06-04-2011 10:47 AM

RE: wingspan?
 
hmm....so a flyzone skyfly max is 1.6lbs. idk the speed of it, but i am thinking it would be fine for some flying around my middle schools field.

OkadaKeisuke 06-04-2011 11:57 AM

RE: wingspan?
 
My brother has a Skyfly 2, which is quite smaller than the MAX, and it needed a rather large area. I'd say, four football fields grouped together. However, he was learning and needed the space to give himself time to set up for landing approach. If you are a little more experienced than a newcomer, than you may have enough room to fly it in a single football field. I might add, that the Skyfly 2 is pretty quick for a small electric 3 channel plane. I believe it has a Brushed 380 pusher motor.

~Noah

electricrc68 06-04-2011 12:03 PM

RE: wingspan?
 
okay thanks. this would be my very first airplane. i guess i will join a local club then if i decide to fly planes over helis. (still deciding since cars give me no thrill whatsoever).

CGRetired 06-04-2011 01:17 PM

RE: wingspan?
 


ORIGINAL: electricrc68

hmm....so a flyzone skyfly max is 1.6lbs. idk the speed of it, but i am thinking it would be fine for some flying around my middle schools field.
IDK?

kiwibob72 06-04-2011 01:43 PM

RE: wingspan?
 
Over here, the council defines a 'parkflyer' (ie one we are legally aloud to use in a park) as electric, under 1kg (2.2lbs) and under a meter wide .... that said, there is a really nice little underutilized park round the road from home where I fly my 3.6kg, 1.35mtr rotor diameter nitro burning heli often ..... only time I ever had a council worker come up and ask me about it was to state how nice it was, and just how much was it to buy one!! ;)

FILE IFR 06-04-2011 02:04 PM

RE: wingspan?
 


ORIGINAL: CGRetired



ORIGINAL: electricrc68

hmm....so a flyzone skyfly max is 1.6lbs. idk the speed of it, but i am thinking it would be fine for some flying around my middle schools field.
IDK?
IDK means "I Don't Know"

;)

CGRetired 06-04-2011 02:17 PM

RE: wingspan?
 
pm lingo. :eek:

electricrc68 06-04-2011 03:13 PM

RE: wingspan?
 
its modern day youngster talk CG. :D

MTK 06-04-2011 08:07 PM

RE: wingspan?
 


ORIGINAL: electricrc68

okay thanks. this would be my very first airplane. i guess i will join a local club then if i decide to fly planes over helis. (still deciding since cars give me no thrill whatsoever).
If you have no experience with planes whatsoever, you might want to consider the Vapor. It is an outstanding flight trainer, and one that you can fly by yourself with no help. IF you had even a little assistance, it would be easier, but it's not a must. Also, this model is small and super light...more of a backyard or parking lot flyer

It must be flown in zero wind which is the only real drawback, except, when you are just starting out, zero wind is your friend. Good luck

CGRetired 06-05-2011 01:48 AM

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ORIGINAL: electricrc68

its modern day youngster talk CG. :D
That may be, but it gets in the way of understanding what is going on in the thread. Don't be lazy. Say what you mean.

CGr.

im_a_rcav8r 06-05-2011 04:39 AM

RE: wingspan?
 


ORIGINAL: electricrc68

also, i have been seeing many planes i want that have a 27mhz transmitter. would it be fine to get one with a 27mhz?

<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">I know this is an old thread, but this may be helpful for anyone who may be looking at buying a ready to fly park flyer.</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">In the US, both 27MHz and 49MHz are commonly used for toy-grade radio controlled vehicles.In my opinion the 27MHz band should not be used on any R/C that has the potential to cause personal injuries or property damage.If it flies I say 27MHz should NEVER be used.On the ground if it goes fast enough to hurt your foot if it hits you at full speed or if it is expensive and you don&rsquo;t want it to drive it self into the road, lake or some other potentially hazardous area stay away from 27MHz.Though FM is safer than AM, both are VERY VERY susceptible to RFI (radio frequency interference).</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">I can go into great detail as to why 27MHz is a bad idea, but for the sake of this forum and to keep this as short as possible I will forego the tech talk and just say this.The guy at the toy store or hobby shop may tell you that there is no interference problems but he is wrong, misleading you or just un-educated in the matter.</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">CB Radios used by truckers and citizens all over the USA run on 27MHz and when hooked up to a 10 meter radio amplifier (made to work on 28MHz and illegal to do) it causes &ldquo;splatter&rdquo; from 25Mhz to 30Mhz.</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">Anyone old enough to remember the days of watching T.V. using an antenna may remember the occasional interference.The picture gets messed up and the audio goes wacky.Some times you can even make out what the CBer is saying!</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">Trust me when I say a CB can and WILL take over your R/C car, boat, plane or train.</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">I have been a licensed radio operator for years; please take my word on this.It is worth the few extra dollars to get a 72MHz radio if you&rsquo;re in the air!</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt">I used 50MHz in the past (must be licensed) but I found I had to worry about RFI at 50MHz too because some unlicensed or un-educated people operated 6 meter radios out of band.Uggg.</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt"></div>

CGRetired 06-05-2011 04:50 AM

RE: wingspan?
 
Or 2.4GHz.

CGr.

electricrc68 06-05-2011 04:52 AM

RE: wingspan?
 
okay thanks for the info on the 27mhz radios. i think i should switch my car to 2.4ghz too :D<div>
</div><div>MTK- what about the ember 2?</div>

hogflyer 06-05-2011 05:42 AM

RE: wingspan?
 


ORIGINAL: electricrc68

... what about the ember 2?

I have both the Ember 2 and the Night Vapor (both the Vapor and Night Vapor fly the same). If given the choice between the Ember 2 and the Vapor, I will always recommend the Ember 2 as a micro trainer. In my opinion it has less drag and just flies better. The Vapor can handle 1 mph winds while the Ember 2 will handle 3-4 mph winds (remember your talking 1 ounce planes). I can trim the Ember 2 to fly using only rudder, not touching the throttle or elevator until I'm ready to land - can't do that with the Vapor. A big key to success with the Ember 2 is to use a radio with dual rates and fly on low rate set at 30% - 40% of the recommended control throws. I routinely fly mine indoors using only rudder trim to make my turns, and rudder trim to roll out of the turn and never touch the elevator trim or the sticks.

Last fall we had an indoor climb-glide contest at Hartman Arena here in Wichita I was able to attain a best pure glide (from the time of switching the power off) of 31 seconds before it touched down (I was beat out by a modified Vapor that flew in the 40 second range - there's an article on this plane in the June 2011 issue of Flying Models, and the closest Ember 2 to me was at 25 seconds) and it by far beat out all the stock Vapors that attained around 20 seconds.

On hot days the Ember 2 will also ride thermals quite nicely - I've done several 25 minute flights with only a minute of powered flight to get into the thermals. I limit my time due to the small battery aboard. Needless to say my Ember 2 probably has close to 200 flights on it while my Vapor may have around 50.

Hogflyer

electricrc68 06-05-2011 07:14 AM

RE: wingspan?
 
okay thanks. i guess i will get the ember 2. i heard it would fly nicely in a backyard too.


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