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midnitedew 09-04-2003 11:40 PM

whats easier to fly? somethin extra or U-can-do
 
well, whats easier to fly the somethin' extra or the u-can-do 3D ?

Spaceclam 09-05-2003 02:01 AM

whats easier to fly? somethin extra or U-can-do
 
i would probably say from just looking at it, the u-can-do 3d because of it's apparent slow speed control authority, light wing loading, and thick airfoil. i have never flown either, but you can get a general idea of how a plane will fly just by looking at it and the basic specs

Live Wire 09-05-2003 02:16 AM

whats easier to fly? somethin extra or U-can-do
 
If you set up the exta the way you are supposed to it flies great. Set up a you can! to do 3D and you are going to have your hands full and better Know what you are doing or party time.

MinnFlyer 09-05-2003 11:51 AM

whats easier to fly? somethin extra or U-can-do
 
The answer will differ depending on how the setup is.

Neither one is "Easier" to fly than the other.

So if you are looking to start that type of flying, the question you should ask is:

"Which one is easier to repair?"

Ed_Moorman 09-05-2003 12:24 PM

Easier to fly
 
Since this is in the Beginners' Forun, I will have to assume you are at least slight inexperienced.

As a general rule, fun fly type planes are built light to get a good power-to-weight ratio for vertical and 3D type maneuvers. Light weight also means easy to break if you bounce it around landing. From a repair standpoint, I would say the Somethin' Extra would be easier to fix. Sig even sells wing kits for it.

With any of the fun fly planes, it is generally the setup and your flying ability as to what you can do. The more tail heavy they are, the easier they will do most of the 3D maneuvers. Normally, you want a good bit of exponential set in. Set with the stock CG, both will be very nice airplanes to fly.

Another thing you need to be concerned with is speed. As the controls get larger the tendency to flutter increases. Most fun fly planes will not withstand a full power dive without destructive flutter. The UCD manual has a section telling you not to use larger than a 6 pitch prop.

Tight controls are a must as any slop can lead to flutter. With a trainer of Stick, for example, you tend to get a buzz when flutter starts. With the larger controls, it gets bad fast. Control surfaces can fall off and wings break.

That being said, both are nice planes. We have several UCDs in my club and had 2 or 3 SEs. A couple of the UCDs are flown by sport fliers who do a little acro and shoot touch and gos. Ons is .61 powered and while is won't climb vertically, it is a great sport plane.

The large UCD has one bad characteristic. If you are a normal new flier, you may never notice it. It has a very bad pitch down with rudder. It has some roll, too. At least, the 4 I have flown had these characteristics. One of our guys always uses rudder to correct for a crosswind on landings. He got a big surprise when the nose dropped on final. He did recover, but it scared the living daylights out of him. You put in full rudder and the plane will roll slightly, but the nose will drop a bunch.

I notice on the .46 size they have lowered the stab to the center of the fuselage. This is one of the design changes that is normally used to correct for pitch toward the gear in knife edge. I would say the smaller UCD would be a better choice of the 2 sizes for an inexperienced flier.

The Somethin' Extra is an older design and probably more sturdy than the newer, relatively lighter UCD.

If you really don't make good landings yet, one of the Sticks might be a better choice. The Ulrea Sticks are fairly light and fun to fly.

Ugo Ferrari 09-06-2003 04:41 PM

UCD vs SE
 
YEAH ! What Ed said !!
I'm the guy with the UCD with the .61 in it. I am just a Sport Flyer and got the UCD because it was big, and a nice colorful plane, and just looked cool !

After Ed trimmed it out for me, It's a joy to fly ! It does most everything a sport flyer like me can do. Landings... So slow that I can go back to the van for a cup of coffee while it's on "Final" !!
Did I say that it's BIG !! LOL !

Go with the UCD, You'll love it !!

Ugo

Spaceclam 09-06-2003 05:15 PM

whats easier to fly? somethin extra or U-can-do
 
the ucd .60 is a big plane, but for a .60 size 3d plane i am looking onto the 65 inch extra from extreem flight.


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