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kranker1450 11-01-2016 03:45 PM

how "flat"building board
 
I am in the process of making a build board out of mdf. I have it built and it has a sag of about .009 in the center. The table is 6ft x2ft and will be topped with steel. I have not ever built a plane before and want to get this right but not chase my tail.

Thanks krank

jetmech05 11-01-2016 04:07 PM

9 thousands. You'll never know it. Rule of thumb. If it looks right it will fly right

Charlie P. 11-01-2016 05:54 PM

If you can't get by with shimming it underneath with a piece of Monokote it will just have to do.

jester_s1 11-01-2016 07:27 PM

I'm curious how you measured an error that small in a table so big. Expensive straightedges?

kranker1450 11-02-2016 07:30 AM

I used a straight edge and then used sheets of paper to touch the straight edge. Then measured the stack of paper it took to fill the gap. .009

thanks krank

Lone Star Charles 11-02-2016 07:59 AM

0.009" ---- You'll never see it from 100' away.

kranker1450 11-02-2016 09:33 AM

here is a picture of the structure of the table. it is all made from 3/4 in plywood. 16 in on center supports.

http://i1328.photobucket.com/albums/...psyo9yxqf5.png

raptureboy 11-02-2016 09:40 AM

Holy Crap! look at all those outlets! Planning on lots of kitchen appliances? ;) With those tolerances you will be fine, plenty of good airplanes built on the dining room table.

kranker1450 11-02-2016 09:47 AM

lol, I hate having something to plug in and no outlet to plug it into. So when I built the room I put an outlet on every stud except the north wall which is where my tool box and the laundry sink will be. Each wall has its own breaker. The outlets recessed in to the wall in the white area are for the tv/monitor and stereo and they have there own circuit as well. the room is only 8x14 so not huge but built just for me.

j.duncker 11-02-2016 10:27 AM

I was always a bit anal abut getting stuff as true as possible. At this stage could you not shim the center support of the board. I would if it were mine.

For future reference the most stable board I ever had was a slab of marble rescued from a junkyard. It one formed the top of an old fashioned washstand.

kranker1450 11-02-2016 11:05 AM

The bottom sheet is screwed to the supports and the top sheet is screwed up through the bottom sheet into the bottom of the top sheet. So I think what I may do is unscrew the top sheet and use some sheets of paper in between the 2 layers to shim it up.

Propworn 11-02-2016 03:41 PM

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I have used solid core doors and topped them with Homosote they stay straight and true for ever. These are my two building tables one has a 36 inch Xerox machine inside the other has a 2 X 2 steel frame.

Dennis

Tom Nied 11-02-2016 04:18 PM

Definitely shim. Recheck, recheck, recheck. Then go build a straight wing. You're wise to get it right.

ETpilot 11-02-2016 04:56 PM

You might consider adding an adjustment screw. I built my board with adjustment screws. I check for flat before each build. Two years now, no adjustment yet.

kranker1450 11-02-2016 05:16 PM

Thanks for all of the info. I think I am going to replace The mdf on the building side with 3/4 plywood and shim it flat.

Tom Nied 11-02-2016 05:38 PM

I love the idea of adjustment screws, then you can crank in or out incredibly small amounts.

jetmech05 11-03-2016 05:40 AM

9 thousands? Everything has a tolerance, 9 thousands would be well within

Propworn 11-03-2016 10:23 AM

All wood and dimensional lumber will move with temp and humidity. Engineered lumber such as plywood has a flatness tolerance that is pretty generous. So .009 is nothing I would worry about. Shim it out today check it when the season changes it may surprise you how much it can move. Especially if two different materials are fixed together with glue. I screw the homosote to the solid core door and the screws allow the homosote to move eliminating warping.

There is more than a good chance simply shrinking the covering will result in more than .009 change.

Dennis


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