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epoxy123 11-20-2003 12:26 PM

LT-25 or LT-40
 
Can anyone suggest which kit to start with for a begginer LT-25 or LT-40? Any advantages that would favor one over the other?

hogbilly 11-20-2003 12:39 PM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
I started with the LT-40. this is the plane I would go with, its so gentel and forgiving that my eight year old flies it. very durable as well. you will enjoy the advantages of a large plane in the sky too. good luck

3DFanatic 11-20-2003 12:51 PM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
Get an LT-25. After your trainer, all your planes are (probably) going to be taildraggers, might as well learn on one. And they're a much better flying airplane then the LT40.

CRFlyer 11-20-2003 12:52 PM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
I think either of the two planes you mentioned would make a good trainer. the biggest difference between the two is size. Both are easy to fly. The 25 is a tail dragger, but don't let that scare you.

Rick Lindsey 11-20-2003 12:59 PM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
Faced with the same choice, I selected the LT-25, but I haven't built it yet so i can't really comment on it's build or flight characteristics. Personally I think tail-draggers look much cooler, but the selling point for me was the lighter wing loading (almost as light as a Kadet Senior's wing loading!). My building/storage/transportation space is also limited so the smaller kit was appealing (though looking back, the LT-40 is only an extra 7" in span)

epoxy123 11-20-2003 02:04 PM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
Any ideas on the best set up for the LT-25?

kerrydel 11-20-2003 02:05 PM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
Bigger is better! True in most situations!


Kerry

Had an LT-40 and crashed it. But that's part of learning!

MinnFlyer 11-20-2003 02:48 PM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
Once you have learned to fly, you won't be flying many 25 size airplanes. So wht buy a 25 engine that you won't use much?

Get the LT 40, and an engine that will be good enough to go into your next planes (Like a TT46 Pro, or Evolution 46)

shawnh 11-20-2003 03:46 PM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
You never know I keep a .25 cub for just tooling around with. Mainly since I drive a jeep wrangler a 1/4 scale cub would be hard to fit in the back seat. :D

Yub, yub, cmdr! 11-20-2003 04:26 PM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
Also, read the Sig Midstar or 4 Star post.

It also tells about taking off/landing with taildragers.

Askalon 11-20-2003 04:58 PM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
I guess my thought is if you like the TD, get the LT40 and make it a TD instead of a trike. I would skip the 25 size and get a 40. This is only my opinion and does not represet those that I live, sit next to, work for or talk with.

epoxy123 11-20-2003 05:38 PM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
Any thoughts on the Telemaster 40?

wings 11-20-2003 09:45 PM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
LT-40, 40 size engine. MORE POWER![sm=punching.gif]

epoxy123 11-20-2003 10:24 PM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
Suggestions on how to equip the LT-40 as a tail wheel?

bdtsr 11-20-2003 10:28 PM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
The Telemaster is very similar to the LT 40. They both fly great. Both will fly with a 40 sized engine (but get a 46). I own the LT 40 ARF (and about 25 otherplanes) and have flown my buddies Telemaster MANY times. With the flaps down on the Tele and a 15 mph headwind, verticle landings are easily done! Both are excellent trainers and you wouldn't go wrong with either.

3DFanatic 11-21-2003 01:24 AM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
What's this talk about an LT-25 with a 25 in it??

Mine's got a 40 FP.

spokman 11-21-2003 02:19 AM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
I'm going to get an LT25 and put a GP42 in it. Almost as light as the .32 and .36's. Was thinking of an LT40 but it costs more and doesn't look as cool!

crashmaster bob 11-21-2003 03:39 AM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
iF YOUR LEARNING, DONT DECIDE ON LOOKS, GET THE LT-40, IT WILL GIVE YOU THE BEST CHANCE FOR SUCCESS IN LEARNING TO FLY. YOU CAN BUILD ALL THE COOL LOOKING PLANES LATER, 1ST LEARN TO TAKI OFF AND BRING IT BACK IN 1 PIECE.
;)

DBCherry 11-21-2003 08:45 AM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
crashmaster bob,
I didn't bother mentioning it in the last post of your's I read, but please don't use all capital letters when you post. It's harder to read, is considered rude by internet etiquette rules, and is considered SHOUTING! ;)

But, it's okay to use them when you want to emphasize something.

Oh, and welcome by the way. RCU is a great place. :D
Dennis-

phread59 11-21-2003 11:38 AM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
Hello Epoxy:

The procedure is quite simple. You move the landing gear blocks forward. Try to get the axle center as close to the leading edge as you can. Usually there is a former at the front of the radio compartment. Just at the front of the wing. I suggest you put the blocks against the rear of this former. The tail wheel is simple too. Just put some reinforcement (I suggest 1/8 lite ply or 3/32 ply if you have some) in the rear at the bottom of the fuselage. Get a tail wheel bracket with the prebent wire. You need to bend the wire at a 90 at the top of the bracket. And a finger in the wire to go into the bottom of the rudder. Just remember when you go to mount the bracket to get the pivot point of the bracket under the rudder hinge line or it will bind up. I like to tape the assembly in place and test work the assembly before final assembly. It take longer to explain than do. I have done this several times with good success. I wish you well. Just remember it is not all that hard. Good luck.

Mark Shuman

JimTrainor 11-21-2003 12:25 PM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
I just setup an LT-40 as a tail dragger. In addition to Mark's comments, here's what I did specifically:

Add the ply plate aft of former F2. The plate can be made from a scrap 1/8 inch die knock out. The fuse is 3 inches wide. My plate is 2 1/2 x 3 inches. Add some 1/2 inch balsa triangle stock to the inside of fuse for additional strength around the plate and the inside corner of former F2. (Actually, I have tri stock all over the inside of the fuse. 1/4 inch in most places.)

Get some main gear that have about a 14 inch spread. For example, I used great planes L4 dural gear:
http://www.greathobbies.com/scart/pr...rtNumber=GPML4
(I would have used a Tower link, but they have no picture.)

Notice that GP's dural gear has straight edge, and an angled edge. The straight edge points forward. That leaves the wheels lined up with the leading edge of the wing.

These are about perfect, IMO. Great Planes 40 size dural gear are too small IMO.

5/32 axles are required also. I used Dubro.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXD823&P=7

The wire gear supplied with the Lt-40 kit are 5/32, so the wheels and collars supplied with the kit will fit.

I attached the gear with four 8-32 nylon bolts and blind nuts.

For tail gear, I used this: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXA386&P=7
You need some 3/32 wheels collars and a 1 to 1 1/2 inch tail wheel.
I think the gear come with 6-32 bolts to attach to the fuse. I used 4-40 because 4-40 blind nuts are only 1/8 inch deep.

This attaches directly the bottom of the fuse. No extra plate. The axle and tiller arm are positioned about 1 1/4 inch beyond the end of fuse. I ran an extra push rod from the rudder servo (same side of the servo arm as the nose gear would connect to) to the tail gear's tiller arm. Sullivan 36 inch push rods are long enough. The push rod tube is glued to the left side of F3 at about the same level as the rudder push rod. There is small inside corner on F3 that it can be glued into - just to left and slightly below the rudder push rod. F6 requires a hole be drilled for the extra push rod tube.

epoxy123 11-21-2003 12:44 PM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
I appreciate all the attention you guys gave to my questions, thanks!

3DFanatic 11-21-2003 01:33 PM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
Why do you think there's a better chance of learning on the 40?

I've flown both and the LT-25 is the best handling hands-down (even as heavy as I built mine!)

epoxy123 11-21-2003 01:34 PM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
Sounds complicated since I never tried this but I will give it a shot. Seems like this configuration makes sense (stonger) for smash and go's. Can the tailwheel be a "freewheel" or does it have to be connected to the rudder?

j.thomas 11-21-2003 01:59 PM

RE: LT-25 or LT-40
 
I have an LT-25 converted to electric "Max Cim" can help you out for the electric's and its quite.
jim


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