WINGERONS
 

I've been i aviation for 17 years and never heard the term wingerons! Flaporons, spoilerons, elevonns, ruddervators, BUT what the hell is a wingeron???

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I think Clancy Aviation uses that term in reference to one of it's Lazy Bee models... I haven't actually seen one, but as far as I can tell, the wings pivot about the spar(?)... sort of like the full-flying tail on an F-14... making the wings act as control surfaces...

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Thanks, I've just never heard or seen that term. Immagine what would happen if that idea were applied to full scale aircraft!!

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The roll rate would be pretty quick. ;)

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Um, it was..sorta. "Wing-warping".

Make those wings go vertical, that's putting on the brakes!

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3DFanatic,
You're right. A wingeron would describe a flexing, wing-warping structure like the Wright Bros. had on their Kittyhawk model.

Jesse

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bearmuch,
"Wingerons" refer to the entire wing being used as the aileron control surface. I believe it started in slope gliders. Usually the wings pivot from the center.
papermache

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Know a guy that's building a wing-warp plane. Can't wait to see it done.

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Look back to the Pou de Ciel of the late 30's. I don't know if you could classify it as a wingeron but the entire foward wing, it had two nearly the same size, pivoted at the CG, to change the angle of attack for climb and descent. No elevator, just a rudder and putt, putt engine. It was a homebuilt and did fly with a man in it. I believe the designer was a Henri Mignet and he tried to revive plan sales post WWII. I don't knowif he got any takers. Pou de Ciel means sky louse or flea. It was often referred to as a flying flea. Maybe not wingerons but a wingevator. You can add that to your list of wierd aircraft terminology.

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Have anyone seen a flaperoni or a wingogetti? [sm=stupid.gif]

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I've seen a couple designs with "wingerons." That's not what they called it and I can't remember the term, but papermache got it right. I think the wing pivots closer to the CG though.

It's a much more efficient configuration than ailerons, but it is also fraught with potential for disaster. Obviously any slop will be bad and it will require hefty servos. I can only imagine what the potential for flutter is. There's a reason why you don't see planes with this feature very often.

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In this case, the "wingerons" are the upper wing of a Clancy Stagger Bee. (bi-plane) The lower wing gives the stability while with the wingerons, you have great control. Imagine 1 roll per second but flying at almost stall speed. :D

Unfortunately Hobby People, who distribute Clancy exclusively, are not producing the plane anymore. Waiting for a new laser cut setup, though no due date as yet.

I'm anxiously waiting to get one.

Bob

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the BASIC correct pivot line if using "wingerons" would be 27% MAC line... just as that is the correct pivot line for a "flying stabilizer." You are doig an aerodynamicly ballanced control surface... and its the whole wing.

I've seen it done... the throw was fairly small but it still had a FAST roll rate. Just +/- 3 to 5 deg at max throw. (hard to guestimate that small an angle by eye)

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Corkscrew. Seen it on epp sailplanes. Fragile but quick. Doesnt allow for flaperons.