Risks at the first fly ?????????
 

hello guys,
well am still a beginner and still did not have my first fly. well am asking here about risks and dangers at the first fly when you still dont have real sense of what gonna happen and how you will gonna fly the machine.
well am just done with BUILDING my first plane ( thats another risk i took, the first plane to fly is hand made : D) and in the phase of choosing my Radio set.
so what do you think guys to decrease the value of risks and THE UNEXPECTED [X(]
thanx dudes, anyone has preflight advices is welcomed

RE: Risks at the first fly ?????????
 

Find an EXPERIENCED RC PILOT to help you! [X(]

RE: Risks at the first fly ?????????
 

Every time we take a plane up we're taking a risk in my opinion. There's tons of things that can go wrong while in flight, too many to mention. If you're new to R/C flying and your plane is brand spanking new as well, I would get some help. Talk to some people who you know fly. I see you're in Egypt, not sure about hobby shops there, but surely get some help. An experienced pilot could look your plane over with a fine toothed comb and take it up for its first test flight, then maybe he/she could give you some lessons.

Good luck and be safe out there.

:D

RE: Risks at the first fly ?????????
 

join a club that has instructors and let them teach you to fly.

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thanx guys for replying, but the absolute truth is that there is almost no real RC community in Egypt and hence am a stand alone beginner, almost nobody to help me so am trying to get all my lessons from you guys.
any elaboration :D
thanx dudes

RE: Risks at the first fly ?????????
 

Get real flight G2 and learn there. It will pay for itself many many times over!!

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C130,

I'm a beginner too and beside the fact I live in US, it didn't help me much as far as getting help when I decided to start in this hobby, since I did it right when the summer was gone and the club flight classes were gone too.
I built my plane and took to the field and asked someone to fly it, just to test if everything was all right.[&o]
Next time, I decided to take off by myself and I can tell you, not a good idea! I flew but the drenaline was almost burnning my heart and I didn't know how to land![:o]
Someone was watching me and offered help to land it for me. Later I realised the guy landed for me because was afraid I could crash it to their heads!:D
So I decided I had to pratice the control coordination first in some flight simulator and dumped the FMS simulator to my pc. This simulator is for free and to make it better, I bought the interface from my real radio to the USB port and could pratice with a very realistic feeling. After couple weeks digesting the simulator, I went back to the field with much more confidence in myself, took off and had to land with my engine dead because so tech problems(just a propelar broken). Went back again next week and took off and landed fine. Last week I went again and adding up just 3 test flights, I'm already flying solo without much problems, but crashing could happen, aways, even with the most experient guys.

So if you don't have any help available, would be a good idea to get a simulator and pratice a lot before trying the real thing.
You can find the FMS at http://n.ethz.ch/student/mmoeller/fms/index_e.html.
The interface you migh find at http://www.tti-us.com/sim/products.html but I'm not sure if they ship abroad.
Other than this, here in RCUniverse you can get a lot of help.



Nilo

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If you just can't get an instructor, I second what nilo just said. Also try and determine what radio setup they use in your part of the world. It's either mode 1 or mode 2. Set yourself up accordingly so on the off chance you do meet up with some fellow pilots you will have similar controls. Here's a link to Aircraft Proving Grounds beginner section that has a lot of good info on radio modes and a lot of other stuff: http://www.geistware.com/rcmodeling/novice.htm

- Joe

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Take off and climb, climb, climb! Keep it as high as you can that is reasonably visible without becoming a dot. Throttle back and enjoy the flight. When comfortable flying level, start doing approaches and flybys....each time lower until you are about 5 feet of the ground. Take a deep breath, let it settle about a foot of the ground, flare and hope everything went well....good luck on that landing!

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want to lessen the risk find a good club and enlist the help from a qualified instructor
Yes there have been a lucky few that have learned on their own but they are few and far between. Why risk all the hard work and time you put in building your plane on the slim chance that you will be one of the lucky few? hedge your bet and get some help. most people involved in flying clubs will bend over backwards to make sure you learn in a safe and enjoyable way

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The best way is to learn from an RC club. Sims are great, but not the same. You need field time. I would look very hard for a local(closer than 1 hour away) RC club.

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I got some kids involved in RC flying by letting them use a cheap foamy plane called the Intruder ($40). It uses differential thrust for steering and its nearly indestructable. They flew that thing into almost everything you could imagine and it still kept going. After I seen them fly with decent control we moved up to a R/E trainer and they did fairly well. It lets you learn about alot of pitfalls (wind, orientation...ect) without having to spend alot for a sim. The sim is a good idea if you have the $ though.

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Make sure you have a big fuel tank and that your engine won't quit. Once that happens, landing is no longer an option. :) Best of luck and be safe.

- Paul

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Actually it is still an option. Either you land or you crash.

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Pucker Factor %100

RE: Risks at the first fly ?????????
 

Thanx guys for the help and comments,
I appreciate your help.
WELL[8D]
any other suggestions about RC simulators, i mean like who used a simulator and found it great (downloadable/buyable)
Well i wil try to setlle on my first radio set and get the Radio connecter and try to look for a nice and useful simmulaor
thanx dudes, I appreciate your help:D

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G2 is good, there is also something called FMS. FMS is free.

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You gotta remember that he has already said that he can't get one:eek:

Fly in the sim, make sure you fly from outside of the plane; don't fly in chase mode. When you take that plane off for the first time, just fly it. Keep it high, and as slow as you can go without stalling. When it comes to land... remember; the slower you are going, the easier any crash will be. Just don't go so slow you stall into the ground:)

You will do fine. Yes, you will crash, but you can recover from a crash.

Have a great flight!

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C 130,

Get a sim and spend more time on it then here. Its next to impossible to "teach" someone how to fly in a forum!!!! While you'll get good advice you have no frame of reference for instance the following quote "and as slow as you can go without stalling" how slow can you go without stalling well that depends on the particular model's stall speed.

My advice get a small light weight parkflyer like the GWS Tigermoth and learn in baby steps the tiger moth is a good plane to start with easy to repair and light enough to survive crashes that would total traditional .40 size balsa trainers.

The only drawback is that its going to cost you more in terms of both time and money to progress to where you would be if you learned on a glow trainner. You are going to need to master the tigermoth then a parkflyer with airlerons then some higher performance parkflyers like the GWS zero or P-51 before you will be ready to take on sport glow planes and or high performance electrics. The good news is you'll have a blast flying different planes getting proficient.