How to start the motor
 

How do you exactly start the motor?

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Fill the tank, Open the throttle, put your finger over the carb hole and flip the prop a few times till you see fuel come up the line to the carb, then give it 3 or 4 more flips (With finger over opening).

Now remove finger, and attach a glow igniter to the glow plug. PUT THE THROTTLE TO LOW!!!! Just open the throttle about 1 millimeter. Flip the prop with a stick (Counterclockwise as you look from the front).

Repeat as necessary.

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Do you have a glow driver and starter? Maybe some fuel?

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If its a new engine and you don't have the manual:
Ensure a rich setting by screwing the needle valve in all the way and back out 2 1/2 turns.
Prime the engine by placing your finger over the carbureator and spinning the propellor
Watch fuel go through the fuel line and once it enteres the carbureator, turn the propellor about 3-5 more times.
Open the throttle to about 1/8 or idle, and turn the prop again 3 or 4 more times allowing the fuel now in the engine to stir about and negate hydrolock.
Put the glow igniter on the glow pug, secure the plane and turn the prop clockwise (perspective from the pilot's seat) with either a starter or chicken stick. DONT USE YOUR FINGERS! Almost got mine taken off last night by my Saito 56FS.
Once the engine starts, leave the glow ignitor on for about 30 secs, then carefully remove.

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Best:::

Get someone who has experience with the things to SHOW you how.

The propellor is similar to the blades in a cuisinart.... but the propellor turns faster... and the glow engine (.15 and up) has more horsepower. Its easy to get hurt if you don't know what you are doing.

The prop will virtually dissapear when the engine is running... keep your hand twice as far away as you think it neads to be to not be in the prop arc.

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Doesn't Real Flight show you how to do that?

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No. Real flite assumes all engines are electric-starter equipped, and they all start instantly on the model being placed on the runway.

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I was kidding :D

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Something i would like to know,why leave the glow ignitor on for the additional 30 sec's?,is that one of the reasons they burn up or is it because it takes the engine that long before it's hot enough to keep running ?.
Thanks

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I would say it takes more fuel to start an engine than it does to keep it running. You need to remove the excess fuel used for starting so you need to live the igniter on for it to clean out hte extra fuel.

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Alright, thanks guys, I got good responses on that one. Thats one less problem to work out on this ebay alpha... I fixed the tail already with wod glue, it seems sturdy. Ive also been trying to replace the darn prop which came broken, ive bought both ESA and METRIC allen wrenches, one of the metrics seems to be the "one" BUT it doesnt get a good grip and it kinda freewheels. Any ideas on how to get those damn screws outa there?

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Man.. the fuel is leaking from the bottom and its spitting out from the carburator, as a result some glow fuel ended up in my face, i did the finger over the carb part and got fuel to it, then i put the igniter and turn it counter with the stick, its not doing anything...

No frikin way....

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I have 1 comment to make and then to your problem. A MOTOR uses electricity to run( turn). A ENGINE will turn by a transfer of internal combustion. Anyway, where is the leaking fuel coming from? When is the fuel spitting out of the carb? Are you sure the glow plug is good? Is the high speed needle adjusted correctly? I know I know, where you wearing your safety googles? I strongly agree with a previous post I think it is very very very important if at all posiible that you get connected with a club and a experienced trainer to help you and show you the proper steps to start adjust and tune your engine. These things can and will hurt you in too many ways and there is so much basic stuff to explain that once a experieneced instructor sitts down and shows you; it will all come into focus and be very easily understood.:D

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No man, what else is there to explain that what you guys told me in this post... I mean, YEAH of course i will bring my frikin plane to the club ont he weekend, but i wanted to start it up NOW you know what i mean... The fuel comes out from the oval thing that is to the right of the motor and attached to it, the carb spits out after ive primed it when i turn the prop counterly. I did all the steps, its probably the igniter thing, which im leaving to charge overnight. And i KNOW the difference between a motor and an engine, im just used to saying motor, dont take everything like that i mean... you know what i meant!!!

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BTW, aside from all the problems with my real plane, i got my G2 and my JR Quattro to talk to each other, and it works beautifully, im really good with the pt-40 right now, ive been playing like 5+hrs every day of this week. I love it...

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Before we get too pedantic here, allow me to quote my Webster's New World Dictionary, "Motor . . . 1. anything that produces or imparts motion 2. an engine: esp., an internal -combustion engine for propelling a vehicle" Sorry, it is just part of the ongoing decline of Western Civilization. Motorbike, motorcycle, motorboat, motorhome, etc. etc.

I also encourage you to find someone who knows about model engines.

Jim

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Go check out this thread " Raining airplanes " 5th post Good Luck and becarefull

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I had the same problem with my Alpha 60 when it arrived. Starts out of the box...shyeah right! Maybe it does if it is broken in correctly, but I think they missed mine. I could not start it to save my life on day one. Fuel spit out of the carb's air intake (just as you described) and shot me right in the eye...fun fun. I ended up getting it started on day two, and it ran well enough to taxi around the driveway. Unfortunately, the rudder and throttle were both off and the thing wouldn't shut down, so it taxied right into a fence and wiped out my prop. (By the way, you apparently cannot buy the replacement Evo training prop for the Alpha 60...it hasn't been released for resale yet.) After replacing the prop with a tri-blade master airscrew, I couldn't start the engine. Now, mind you, all I had was a chicken stick...

Finally I took the thing up to meet with an instructor. He wasn't there, but one of the guys at the field came over and watched me mess with the thing. He offered the help of his electric starter, and after a good torque session the engine fired and coughed all kinds of crap out of the carb and the muffler. I went and bought a starter that day.

One thing I found was that the Evo 61 engine tended to backfire and start the prop spinning the wrong direction...a lot. My instructor told me to try flipping the prop clockwise and it worked great. The engine would predictably backfire and spin in the right direction (counterclockwise).

I'm guessing that all those attempts at starting the engine flooded everything, and it had to cycle all that crud out to run.

Unfortunately, the engine has a definite personality and just seems to run when it wants to. I've heard all kinds of theories, but in the end everyone who has looked at it really has no clue why it just dies for no reason, or why the high end valve is never predictable. I'm starting to wonder if there is something defective in the thing.

Hope that story helps.

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Probably had fuel and pressure lines backwards.It would help if you understood what you are trying to do. Get some experienced help to guide you.

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I'm hoping that last post wasn't directed at me...I found it a little presumptious of my ignorance.

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I feel your pain brother! I spent a week trying to get a Supertigre to run, turns out all I had to do was actually follow the directions. And borrow and electric starter. All model engines can be frustrating, not just to a beginner. Most of them do have pesonalities and temperments, and liek a specific combination of priming, choking, flipping, talking too, etc etc before they will start and run reliably. One of the way to get around some of their personality difficulties is to use an electric starter. I hear you getting a little pissed, I know you want to hear your plane fire up, but never NEVER get in a rush around airplanes. This isn't what you want to hear, but step back, take a breath, get a drink, whtever. Rushing around airplanes is how you forget stuff that causes crashes.
You didn't mention if you got instructions with your airplane, if you didn't search the internet and see if you can download some. Follow them, ask questions on the forum here, I don't know if you have a LHS close but they are usually willing to help, and its' Friday, can be at the field tomorrow! Good luck!

Andy

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This is one of those things... We're all trying to tell you what to do, when you SHOULD be out at the Landfill asking this question. There's a bunch of guys there that not only can show you what to do, but if you need to replace a glow plug, or starter battery, they will have one with them so if one thing is bad, they will have a backup.

Get out there and your engine will be running in minutes.

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Gtac01,

Judging by your question I would suggest waiting to start your "motor/engine" :D untill your have someone experienced to help you.

One thing I've found is that tuning these little gems is more of an Art then a Science.

The advice here is accurate but nothing beats hands on help. Save yourself a lot of time and frustration and possibly damaging your engine and wait till the weekend

good luck

BTW I'm not bashing you. Just offering advice based soley on the fact that your initial question implies A need (at leat to me) for hands on help

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Hey thanks for the bad comments. Now back to the ALLEN wrench question.
Any ideas on how to get the damn screws out, remember i bought the ESA and the METRIC allen sets, and none work?

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If you can't figure out how to buy the correct size allen wrench for your particular motor you diffently need more help then is available on RCU:eek: