Gils 202 kit as second plane
 

Would the Giles 202 kit be an o.k. second plane? I am a little excited and am just looking ahead.

RE: Gils 202 kit as second plane
 

is the giles the great planes giles???? or to putt it better who makes it???

RE: Gils 202 kit as second plane
 

Not a very good idea for a second plane. Most of the Giles planes have a very quick stall. Not all of them, but most. The plane is designed for the expeerienced pilot who is presumed to have done more in aerobatics than a few individual rolls and inside loops.

Without more than just a trainer for experience I would suggest a good aerobatic instructor or you will have a very pretty plane for a VERY short period of time.

Sorry to be so blunt, but I've seen this happen too, too many times to count.

RE: Gils 202 kit as second plane
 

Yes, it is a good second plane.
Just remember to set it up like a trainer and fly it like a trainer until you get comfortable with it.

RE: Gils 202 kit as second plane
 

I would say no. Jiles's lazers ect are full out airobatic planes. They go where you point them in a blink of an eye. That is what they are designed to do. I would stay away from one as a second plane. 3rd maybe, 4th definately. If you want to get one and build it for later. go ahead I hear the GP kit is nice. As a second plane I reccomend a 4* or a Tiger II. You cannot go wrong with either. Good luck, and please do not take me wrong. There are some who can handle a Giles as a second trainer. Only you and your instructor know for sure.

Mark Shuman

RE: Gils 202 kit as second plane
 

I remember when the plane just came out, and Anne Marie Cross (her husband designed the plane) was telling anybody who would listen that they should consider the plane, including using it as a second plane. (Great Planes was touting how flexible it was, from almost trainer-like to super aerobatics.)

When I finally pressed her, she said, well, it's a great second plane, ASSUMING you've completely wrung out your trainer until you are completely bored with it and can do all it's capable of. If you're still a little knock kneed during a landing, you're probably not ready for the Giles.

So, my feeling is that it's probably a pretty gentle plane with a smaller engine and the right throws. HOWEVER, you should download the instruction manual before purchase, and make sure the KIT is not more than you bargained for. If your first plane was an ARF, I think the Giles would be a pretty advanced kit for your first kit. It's not that it's any harder than other Giles (it's probably easier, since it's a modern design), it's just that it's a lot more difficult than any of the Stick-style planes, or the profile planes, or something like the SIG 4-star, all of which are traditional sold as "second planes".