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Hey Guys,
After reading up on the Sig 'Something Extra' from various sites and posts from this forum, I think it would be a great first mid/low wing airplane for myself. Currently, I'm flying an Avistar which is a blast and its beginning to get very easy for me. I was wondering if I could transfer my O.S. 40FX from my trainer into this plane and have sufficient power. As you know I am just starting out and would not be performing any torque rolls or anything extreme until later down the road. I've read in other posts that the 46 in this plane works great, is there really a big difference between the 40 and 46??? Thanks for the advice.

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A .40 fx will fly the plane fair enough. For a transition from a trainer it will allow you to have a good deal of fun. It should be able to loop from level flight, but don't expect very long up lines.

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Go with the 46. Sure maybe you aren't doing those things today but that is not to say that you can't learn them very soon. I personally think that with advancement of this hobby people are learning faster all the time. Besides more power IS more fun. I can do 3d stuff with the best of them but what gets the comments from spectators that come to the field is a plain ol straight up verticle that goes untill is just a dot in the sky. Plus I think that the extra power will give you a little more confidence to try stuff that you might be a little hesitant to try with a meager little 40. I have the TT Pro 46. in my SE. It will pull out of a hover and go straight up. Not like a rocket mind you but well enough.

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I second flying it with the .40. It keeps the cost down and the SE will be plenty hot enough for second airplane with the .40. After you gain more experience with the aircraft and more confidence go with a .46 or a .52 or a .72 four stroke for maximum fun.

John

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That FX will be fine. If it was a LA, then I say the 46 FX or TT Pro would have much more power. Don't get hung up on the power thing. Learn to fly on the wing and not the prop.

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I have a Somethin' Extra and I was first thinking on a OS .61........Well, I went to the LHS, and I looked at that .61, and i was like WOAH.....that is TTTOOOO big.......I settled for the OS 46AX


I went to the field, and when I got better at flying, I went vertical and I had UNLIMITED VERTICAL.....Literally. And then, when I got even better, and I was taking off, I could go about 5 ft. and I could lift off.....

I think that the 46AX has alot of power for only $110 or so what it's worth......

Also, a good 4 stroke would work pretty good.....like a Saito 72 or something. But one thing you have to remember is if you get a too big of 4 stroke, since they can swing big props, then it will be too big since the Somethin' Extra is kinda low to the ground. I would say that if you do got the 4 stroke path, then I would get one where the max prop to use is a 12 in. diameter. You might be cutting the grass a few times, but you'll have so much power that you'll just take right off...


If you're thinking, I dont' want that much power, then don't worry. There is this control on the left...see....it's the trottle, and you can control your big engine:):):)


But, you don't have to full power all the time...On my Somethin' Extra with the 46AX, I can cruise at about half, and still have some power to spare, but I am a hot-dogger, and I just seal up the elevators and stuff, and I just go full to the max and I'm sure that i'm going over 100 MPH.....

BTW, if you need any help when you get the SE, then just go on here, or e-mail, PM or catch me on AIM or Yahoo! Messenger, and I'll be glad to try and help you.

Happy Flying

P.S. This is a great plane. If you want to fly on Sunday, and just be slow and not anything hot, then you can have fun...but to have more fun when you get better you up the deflection and everything...and you can have a ball.......

Hope you have fun.......:)[8D]

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I wholehartedly reccomend the 40 off your trainer. It will fly fine on the wing with that engine. It should have plenty of verticle also. Not unlimited, but plenty. Just prop it right. I suggest the APC 12.5x3.25 fun fly prop (I think it is 3.25 can't remember all of a sudden). Anyway the largest-low pich prop you can get. Your speed will be down. But you will have plenty of power. Good luck with your SE.

Mark Shuman

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TRASH the O.S.
O.S. stands for OH S*#!
Get either an Irvine .46 or Thunder Tiger .46
If you use that os youll fly it twice and get bored with it.

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Thanks guys for all your input. After reading these posts I think I will stick with my 40 FX then like iflynething mentioned move up to the 46 or the Saito 72 after I get use to the plane. Thanks again, I should be getting the kit the day after tomorrow - can't wait to build it over the long weekend.

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I was curiuos... i am looking to get teh SE as a second plane. down the road. I like the extra and everythign but i HATE the look of the se's from. I want to put a cowl or osmething on it. Is this possilbe? Any pictures would be great. Cause i really really hate the front of the somthin' extra because it just doesnt look like a "real" plane. It has that "fake" look to it.

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Oh........very good decision there.....


Yes it is possible to put a cowl in the front. Somewhere in the forums, there was a thread about putting a cowl (made from wood) on a Four Star 40 or 60. But, there was a link in that thread that had a page developed by a person that did that on the FourStar. If you, or anyone else can find that thread, then you could just follow what that guy did in the 4* because the 4* and SE are pretty much the same on the front end....

If you get that SE, and you need help settin it up, then come back to RCU or e-mail me and I'll be glad to help you out.


I personally got the ARF version (long story why I did, but wished i got the kit) and I have heard that if you are good, then you can possibly get the kit done in more or less a week or so. I have heard of some people doing it on like 4 or 5 days.....

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Guess I wasn't that good...took me 14 months...lol. I have the OS46fx on mine and am ready to maiden this weekend. Really the kit is not that complicated, I just had times where I put the SE on the back burner while I had something else on the bench being built. Most of those in the club where I fly use the OS46fx and it really matches the power and weight very well.

Here is the thread on my kit and pics on how it turned out:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/Fina...1914644/tm.htm

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from start to flying for my SE #2 was 6 or 7 days. if it is your first kit it won't be that quick, and I also was able to reuse 1 wing panel from SE #1.

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Check out [link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_1640275/anchors_1640275/mpage_1/key_somethin%252Cextra%252Ccowl/anchor/tm.htm#1640275]this thread[/link] for a Somethin Extra cowl. There is a picture, link, and price.

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Sweet! Thank you guys very very very much!!!

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I'm going to get a Heli, then and Electric 3D plane, then something else, then I'm going to get ANOTHER Somethin' Extra and 'trick it out!!' I'm gonna get the kit, extend the wings, fuse, and everything inbetween, make the rudder about twice as big, make the control surfaces larger.....much much larger....put a cowl on it like that one.....and then PUT ME A BIG .61 ON THAT SUCKER......I WANT SOME POWER....!!!!!!....HU-RAH!!

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I built the S.S.E. a couple years ago... still flying it. I put a Magnum .61 in it. whhhooooooooowweeeeeeeee!!!!!! Nothing like pulling up into a hover then punching the throttle and accelerating so fast youre afraid you might rip the tail off (straight up!) A 61 is way too much power, I can vouch. But it sure is fun. The .40 will do you GREAT. But be smart and keep the plane LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT. I would recommend the kit as well.

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Well, I'm going to do alot of stuff different like i said when I buy the KIT and build that......I think the big difference is that .61 that I'm going to put in it....I was really wanting to hover like you are flyforfood99.....I've always wanted tohover.....

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Go ahead and run the 40. If you feel that you need a little more power, and don't want to buy a new engine, order a Macs' Muffler for it and you will see a noticeable gain in power.

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I think a strong .50 would do you fine if you want to be able to hang it on the prop.... as long as you keep the plane light. I added about 3/4" to the overall chord of the rudder for a little more effectiveness. Keep in mind though, if hovering is what you want to do... its going to be easier on a profile fun fly. The flat fuse helps a lot with stability.

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I've been using an Irvine Mk III .46 and it has plenty of power on a Zinger 11x5 wood prop. The kit is light. You don't need to overpower it at all.... This is my 2nd SE, and I'd recommend sticking with something in the .40 - .46 range..

Just my $.02

Bob

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I know these are not speed planes, but what kind of speed can this plane handle? Could it handle what a 61 could put out? Of course I would seal the hinge lines to eliminate flutter. I just cannot find a speed plane that I like and I have heard all positive about this plane and am thinking of putting something big in it.

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Boy if you think that you should put a .61 in it then....I wouldn't try that....I mean you could and all but me IMHO, I really don't think that it will handle it. The Somethin' Extra is a aerobatic/sport plane, not really made for going fast. I'll tell you this, with my Somethin' Extra and a .46AX (OS) in it, it know that it's well going over 90-100 MPH....It really doesn't look like it, but that's about how fast it will go WOT with the 46. If you put a .61 in it and proped it right, then there's not telling how fast it would go.

BTW, if you want a FAST ASS plane, then get that new Patriot that has come back out....I'm SURE that you could have some fun if speed is what you want......But if you want to go stall speed, and just play around doing aerobatics, then I say get that Somethin' Extra.....I don't think you will NOT hear good things about it (I think i said that right!!)

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iflynething - Thanks for the reply. I already have 2 3D planes, so the extra would be for sport/speed. Your answer is what I expected to hear, but I just cannot find a plane I like for speed. I do not want a kit, or a delta wing or a v-tail-so that eliminates a lot of planes.

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Hey man, sure thing.....What 3D planes DO you have??....

Well, I didn't see that the Patriot XL was a kit....if it was an ARF, then I'd say...if you want speed then get that one....but my mistake....but if you do want to check it out....go [link=http://www.towerhobbies.com/products/greatplanes/gpma0450.html]HERE!![/link]
Maybe you could get someone else to build it for you or something like that....I dunno.....Maybe someone else will come on here and they'll be able to tell you a FAST plane that you can have fun with at LIGHTNING FAST SPEEDS!!