which four star?
 

I am currently looking to upgrade from my trainer and was wondering which SIG four star would be the best to get the 40, 60 or 120, if I get the 120 I plan on putting a zenoah g26 in it.
thanks
RonH

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First welcome to RCU... I see this is your first post ... All I can say is I have a 4* 60 with a mag 91 FS and I love flying that plane.. I haven't flown either the 40 or 120 size but I can't imagine them flying bad either!

John

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I'm also a 4*60 pilot, but I power mine with a Thunder Tiger 91FS. It was my first glow plane moving over from electrics. I also own a Mag 91FS, also a superb engine. If I needed to buy another four stroker, I'd buy the Magnum. :D

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It comes down to cost! If you can afford get the 120, dont know how the airframe will hold up with a gasser in it...

But I guess you will find out

Oh yeah the 60 and 40 fly just as nice all depends on how much you want to spend...

Mike

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Here's a good one.

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It depends on what engine you currently have in your trainer, it you want to use it in the four star, or if you are ready to buy a different engine. I went with the 4*40 simply because I had a spare .40 sitting around. If I would have needed to purchase a new motor I would have went with the 4*60. Bigger plane...easier to see in the air.

here's my 4*40

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My opinion only here, but I would not move from a trainer to a 120 with a G-26 on it. You are making quite a leap in performance and flying with the 120. I have the US lite with a G-26 on it and just maidened it last weekend. This is my third year flying and I am glad I waited. However, my second plane was, and still is, a 4*60 with an OS91 Surpass on it. The set up in performance that the 60 provides is plenty if you are making your first move.

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I love my 4*60/Mag 91.. She flies great for what she's made to do! I would
guess the 40&120 would be the same... Just love them 4c also... Lot's of
torque, sounds great, flies long with less clean up...

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All the 4* are great flyers. The 120 with a G26 will be a good combo. Still, I recommend the 60 as the next plane (or the 40 if you want to use your trainer engine (assuming a 40-46?) The 120 flies great, and it is a much bigger, heavier "different" flyer. Schedule that one for "the next one after......". My experience is with the 60, running a strong 2 stroke .61 with 13X6 APC. Great combination, as is the 91 4 stroke. My buddy and I both had the 60, mine with the 60 2stroke, and his with the 91 4 stroke running a 14X6 APC I think. Mine was a little faster, his was more torquey (??)
Both were great flying models. He still has his, I sold mine and wish I had kept it.

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can you put a thunder tiger .46 into a 4star 40???

im into the faster planes but i dont want to spend the extra money for a .60 (we also dont have much room)

is the 4 star 40 kit hard to build or should i go with the arf

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it's easy to build.

i clipped the wings and lower the diehedral on all my 4 *s.
better roll rates and less drag.
not a bullet..but fun to fly.

the bigger the air plane , the better it'll fly becuase of power to wieght ratio.
air molecules don't not scale down.

my .60 and .40 looks the same in the air.
it depends how far the plane is from me

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Four star with a big mill on it is going to be a bear to land unless you go with a big low pitch prop. I had a 40 & performance increased when I switched to a larger prop &down !" pitch. easier to land too.

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Ron,

My vote is for the 4 Star 60. I recommend this plane for a trainer - yes - first plane trainer. I have found that people learn faster with this plane than anything else I have run into in 20 years of teaching people. I also recommend the OS 61 FX. People like you want to fly, not fiddle with an engine - I have found the OS to just plain run allowing you to fly.

I fly Giant scale 3D stuff, but have two 4 Star 60s for my son and others to fly - and fly myself just for fun. Build it light - add 1" to the rudder - and have fun. I am building another one this winter for night flying -but that is a whole other discussion.

Dan

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I would go with the 60 (which I have, ARF, OS .65 LA in it) because it can handle the wind alittle bit better, and you can see it easier, and it doesnt take up nearly as much room as the 120, or cost as much

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Learned on an Avistar and then got a now discontinued Kyosho PT-19 as a combo first taildragger and semi-scale warbird. Really like it. Picked up a 4*40 from a club member just to have something else to fly. Got to say I now know why the 4* series is an all time RC classic and arguably one of the top 4 or 5 designs in model aircraft EVER. Personally, I think everybody in RC ought to own and fly one for that reason alone! Having said all that, I`d get a 60. Bigger, easier to see, handles wind better, etc.

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I just maidened my 4*60 I built from a kit. I put an OS 61fx engine on it. Did not modify any of the control surfaces on it and now am wishing I had added to the rudder. Still though it flies really nice and goes where you point it as opposed to a trainer which will try to "recover" from too much input.

My vote would be for the 60.

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I would say the 60, but remember it eats more fuel.

Whatever you decide, good luck and have fun!

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I love my 4*40. It flies really fast with a 46AX and 11x6 prop. Slows down to a crawl for landing. Havent flown the others, but getting a 60 on Friday. I think any 46 would be fine on a 40. I'm considering pulling the AX off mine and putting a TT GP 42 on it, to slow it down some.

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I just recently had the opportunity to fly a club members 4*40 and it flies nicely. I would vote for the 4*60
because its bigger, easier to see, a bit more steady .. however if you have the engine from your trainer and are trying to save a buck, the 4*40 may be the way to go.

Have you considered the Sig SE?

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thanks everyone for your response, I was about to buy the 60 but last night my girlfriends parents, gave me my birthday present and it was a 40 kit!!!! i was very shocked!!, this will be my first kit, so how long should I expect to spend on this, also I plan to try and sheet the deck and make a cowl
thanks
Ron

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Your GFs parents bought it???

Wow! Sounds like a keeper! I mean you can ditch the girl but keep her parents! :)

Anyways, remember not to hurry and repress the need to get it done fast. If you go too fast you will make mistakes. I have a thread titled "4 Star 40 Building Commences". I hope that can help you. At least it can steer you away from some of the mistakes I made! :)

The kit went together quite well. Just pay attention to the instructions. In fact, read the instruction through entirely before you begin. Also, ensure you have a FLAT, FLAT, and FLAT building board! Also ensure you have a flat building board! :)

Good luck and if you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a line.

Good Luck!

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I have had two 4*60's and I loved both of them. The first one was an ARF and It started out with a Thunder Tiger Pro 61 on it. The TT engine flew it around Ok. I replaced the engine with a GMS 76 and wow what a difference. With the GMS engine the plane had unlimited vertical and flew very good. The second one was built from a kit and had a couple of mods done to it. I sheeted the wings from the spar forward and also clipped one bay off of each wing tip. The second plane had a Magnum 91 4 stroke and this was a great engine on this plane. I also flew a TT 91 4 stroke on it also. Out of all the plane engine combo's the TT was the best. Here are a couple of picts of my 4*'s.

Rick

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I have built all 3 four star's. The 60 was the easiest to build but it was the first laser cut model I built. The original 4 star was designed by Bruce Thorp for Sig. He designed it to help new pilots land. He made the plane nose down a little when the rudder was used to prevent snapping. The 60 feels better to me all around and when the wind is up thats the plane I take to the field. It is very forgiving and easy to fly. Not to many bad habits but it wont do all the aerobatic stuff the 3D planes will. It is my just fun to fly plane that I never get tired of. The 120 should have better servos and is harder to build than the other 2. Bruce gave me plans to convert the 40 into a BTE 40. Mainly getting rid of some of the angle for the tail and changing the wing tips and cockpit. Several of us at our club are getting ready to build 4Star 40s with these mods.
Jerry Wallis

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A bit off topic but I am interested in the 4*60 are any of you guys parting with one.

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I would never sell my 4Star 60. Just to nice of a plane to part with. Most That have them feel the same. The 4 Star 60 is the easiest to build if you want to build one. It goes together real easy with very little trouble and it is a lot of fun. Have you considered the BTE 60? It is a very nice plane also. It will spoil you for other kits since Bruce puts together each kit by hand. Similar to 4 Star 60 only a little lighter.
Jerry Wallis