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skyric 04-20-2005 08:33 AM

Beginner Question
 
Just finished building my first plane Midwest Aerostar .40 with an OS 40 LA engine (never have flown a r/c plane),
yes I am planning on joining a club and getting flight training.. Has anyone flown this plane and what weird quirks
await me in the air or ground.. or any other info that might be helpful

2slow2matter 04-20-2005 08:47 AM

RE: Beginner Question
 
Don't know about the plane, but about that engine--make sure the plastic back-plate stays tight. You'll have to re-tighten it every now and then. Also, be careful pulling and replacing the fuel line--that plastic nipple on the remote needle isn't very tough...

joeb102072 04-20-2005 09:11 AM

RE: Beginner Question
 
While I have been out of a trainner for quite a while I have seen many of these planes fly. They are what they are intended to be a trainner. I havent seen any bad tendencies with them but then again any trainner that has bad tendencies most likley wanst put together correctly and has nothing to do with the quality of the ARF. As far as build goes sorry I cannot help but like I said I have never heard of anything bad. Good luck should be fun.

Pilot Chad 04-20-2005 11:04 AM

RE: Beginner Question
 
Make sure the engine can idle good on the ground, other than that, I have no idea on the plane. I GUARUNTEE ifyou can't idle on the ground for more than 20 seconds, you WILL deadstick your first flight. :Dhappened to me.

Good day

skyric 04-20-2005 03:00 PM

RE: Beginner Question
 
so far all controls are working well.. engine has had 3 tanks through it and idles great

bruce88123 04-20-2005 03:59 PM

RE: Beginner Question
 
Don't be tempted to go out and taxi it in a praking lot or anything like that. Many have and wrecked their planes without ever flying. Be sure your instructor gives the plane a good look over before you fly. A good instructor will do that without asking.

skyric 04-20-2005 05:05 PM

RE: Beginner Question
 
Oh have I had that urge to go out and play with it.. but I have refrained from such.. was down at the local flying club today--checking it out.. did have the plane up to the hobby shop..owner flys R/C's .. so has been checked out and has a go for takeoff.....
now its just setting up for instruction...

red head 04-20-2005 10:06 PM

RE: Beginner Question
 
The AeroStar is a super plane and if set up according to the instructions you won't have any problems. I have taught on more of them then I care to count and I still own one. I also have the AeroBat and they are also great. With a 40 on the Aero Star you will be able to do some aerobatics when the time comes, just don't rush it.
Check with your instructor and see if he would mind you taxing it around WITHOUT the wing, that way it doesn't get airborn. But that still doesn't mean it won't CRASH if you aren't carefull.
If you do this, put something over the wing saddles so fuel, dirt etc. doesn't get inside, we use an old plastic bag. ENJOY!!!!!

skyric 04-21-2005 02:48 AM

RE: Beginner Question
 
Ahhh finally someone who has flown this plane.. thanks for the info.. have not done the balancing yet.. is there an easier way than what the manual says...ie: hold the plane on the datum points with your fingertips... come on this plane is way too big to do this that way... but also am not willing to pay the 30 bucks plus to get a balance stand... maybe im wtong... lord knows it wouldnt be the first time..

Crashem 04-21-2005 09:20 AM

RE: Beginner Question
 
Do a search you can make one very easily You Need a wooden base two dowels and the erasers from two pencils

Fastsky 04-21-2005 12:59 PM

RE: Beginner Question
 
Not sure what you mean by the plane is too big to balance. You hold the plane up under the wings near the fuselage at the cg point. I cut 2 round pieces of electrical tape and stick them at the cg point about 1 1/2" out from the sides of the fuselage. Have the nose of the plane pointed toward you and you can feel where the tape is and lift on the "marked spots" with your finger tips. I look for a slight nose drop of about 1 to 1 1/2" which has worked well for me. When the CG is ok, just remove the 2 pieces of tape. Just a note: for high wings, check the cg with the plane upright. With low wing planes, check the cg with the plane inverted. Does any of this help?[8D]

FLYBOY 04-21-2005 01:11 PM

RE: Beginner Question
 


ORIGINAL: skyric

thanks for the info.. have not done the balancing yet.. is there an easier way than what the manual says...ie: hold the plane on the datum points with your fingertips... come on this plane is way too big to do this that way... but also am not willing to pay the 30 bucks plus to get a balance stand... maybe im wtong... lord knows it wouldnt be the first time..

What do you mean too big to do this way? I do 14 foot wing planes on my finger tips. I wouldn't waste the money on a ballancer. Put your finger on the under side of the wing close to the fuse where it says on the plan and pick it up. Whats hard about that?


Skynyrd Man 04-21-2005 01:18 PM

RE: Beginner Question
 


ORIGINAL: Fastsky

Just a note: for high wings, check the cg with the plane upright. With low wing planes, check the cg with the plane inverted.8D]
I'm confused, the manual said to balance my high wing tower trainer upside down? Is this wrong?

joeb102072 04-21-2005 01:35 PM

RE: Beginner Question
 
In resonse to the balancer finger tips are not acurate by any means. However you need to look at what are you balancing. A trainner being 3/4 of an inch off isnt going to make the plane uncontrolable to an experienced piliot who should maiden any new commers plane. However 1/4 of an inch on a Funtana 90 can either tame it or spice it up quite a bit. I balanced my F90 twice once on my finger tips and the second investing in a balancer. No regrets I found i was indeed off and needed to move my CG around. As for low wing planes being inverted to balence its just to make it eaiser and a bit more acurate. Having the fuse below the wing when balancing is recomended.

Skynyrd Man 04-21-2005 01:42 PM

RE: Beginner Question
 
I will double check my c/g with the plane upright. I'm just curious. I had a heck of a time getting it balanced. But it seemed to fly OK today.

skyric 04-21-2005 02:13 PM

RE: Beginner Question
 
ok so now Im getting the idea of how to balance the plane... sorry if question sounded stupid... but this is my first full
build and have never flown or built before.. so some things that you old timers take for granted can seem a bit intimidating
to a newby... anyway.. thanks for all the valuble info

joeb102072 04-21-2005 02:18 PM

RE: Beginner Question
 
Hey thats what we are here for.... Good Luck

Fastsky 04-21-2005 03:39 PM

RE: Beginner Question
 
Actually we are glad that you asked. Its better to know that your plane is balanced before taking it to the field. I am sure that the instructors will appreciate it also. Any other questions, feel free! :D

MinnFlyer 04-22-2005 06:48 AM

RE: Beginner Question
 
Old Timers?

Watch it, or I'll hit you with my cane! :D

bubbagates 04-22-2005 07:01 AM

RE: Beginner Question
 

ORIGINAL: MinnFlyer

Old Timers?

Watch it, or I'll hit you with my cane! :D
Minn,

You can't hit him with your cane, remember, I borrowed it in Toledo and haven't sent it back because it's a really nice one.

Oh that's right I forgot, memory is the second thing to go in us old timers :D that's why you didn't remember. :)

HAW...

bruce88123 04-22-2005 07:55 AM

RE: Beginner Question
 
I use a walker to get to my cane. That is if my seeing eye dog will lead me there. Type louder, I don't hear so well anymore either.

skyric 04-22-2005 11:11 AM

RE: Beginner Question
 
ok, ok didnt mean to offend anyone with the "old timer" comment... but im sure you have lots more time
in the air than I do.... hence the comment...

MinnFlyer 04-22-2005 11:23 AM

RE: Beginner Question
 
I was just bustin' ya skyric

Now if only I could remember who I loaned my cane to...

:D

bubbagates 04-22-2005 11:35 AM

RE: Beginner Question
 
skyric

No apology needed, really. We're just messing with ya...

We know we are...crap...what do you call it...oh yea...old timers and as such we are prone to forgetting things like our names, who we loaned our canes too :), and certain body parts no longer have the enthusiasm that it once did even though the mind still thinks about it every few seconds, now if I could only rmemeber what that was called...:D


bruce88123 04-22-2005 11:46 AM

RE: Beginner Question
 
Some of us never expected to live this long anyway. Some of the things I've been thru I should have been killed years ago.


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