What is a "DeadStick"?
 

Whats a dead stick?

-Fox

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A landing without the engine running

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what he said.....

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I thought it was what Viagra helped!!!! :D:D

Sorry, couldn't resist that one. Anyway, it's what Skynyrd Man and 2slow2matter said. It's having to land your plane with the engine dead.

Ken

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What they said, but not all are greasers and some result in laying it down on cotton.... That is FUN!

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Flamed Out engine, low altitude, trying to get away with flying the base leg, and hopefully making the runway.


It's a dad engine that forced you to come down. If your a powered glider pilot, fly it high, run ot of juice, and find thermals.

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Stick laying on ground.:D:D:D

Cheers.

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does the motor stopping as it drills a field still a dead stick landing? i mean technicaly it died before it hit the ground......

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An engine/motor "drilling" the runway isn't what I call LANDING :eek:

That wouldn't be a deadstick, that would be a dead-plane :D

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well it technicaly landed lol........and yes "dead" is a good description. i guess it doesnt count when the motor stops cause it sheered the carb off.....

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The LHS owners wet dream...

:D:D:D:D[8D]:D

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:)

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Two phrases that scare newbies: Crash Course and Dead Stick! :)

I had my first dead stick last weekend - ran out of fuel. I panicked!!! But my instructor calmly told me, "Fly it... just fly it." That was cool! If loitered around the end of the runway bleeding off altitude while maintaining airspeed so as not to stall, all the while shouting my intentions. Since I am a newbie when I got close my instructor landed. I think this is something that every newbie should experience and practice. If nothing else, just to know how to react. Of course be high enough so when it happens you have the time to react properly.

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I think this is something that every newbie should experience and practice.

I agree 100%. The two worst things that can happen to a novice is a dead stick and a spin and/or inverted. Practice recovering from all of them.

Dr.1

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I find the odd unexpected Dead Stick fun... When I'm flying my trainer...

It makes landing much more exciting...

Although you want a few under your belt before you go looking for them...

Matt

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Yes, deadsticks to tend to scare new flyers. When I'm training a student I make sure that they have several deadstick landings before they solo. They should be part of training for a new student. The biggest thing to remember about a deadstick is to not stall the plane. Just leave it a little bit nose down to keep some airspeed.

What's funny is that a lot of times people will make deadstick landings that look 100% better than powered landings. I guess it's because they know that they're committed and can't go around!! :D

Hope this helps

Ken

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Ok guys, I think we can stop beating that dead stick with that horse. ;)

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Ken:

That's a fact! I solo'ed then the following week I was flying my trainer. Well, I guess I didn't get the fuel flow set properly because shortly after take off, the engine sputtered and died. That was a WEEK after solo. I greased it in and proceeded to thank my instructor for all those dead-stick approaches we made during my training period. Works every time and I hope ALL instructors do that (give dead stick approach training).

Just in case someone out there doesn't understand this, take your student up high and tell him/her to go to idle and land the plane. Talk them through the approach so that they end up in the correct position with the correct wind orientation then watch the approach. At about 20 feet, have them add throttle and go around, then do it again but from a different location in the sky. If several are done on every training schedule, there should be no fear of dead-sticks, just a concern followed by a greaser landing. Often times, that will happen as mine did, right after take off.. in this case, I took off and was in the middle of a right turn when the engine quit. Well, I dropped the nose slightly and continued that right turn until I was lined up and set it down nice and soft. That's the stuff that instructors need to teach as well as all the other stuff.

Great point, Ken.

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one more...I fly 1/2a (.049) all my landings are deadstick,,well one day at the field,I'm flying a plane and a guy pulls up to the field,just as he gets out of his car I run out of fuel,,pretty high up and he asks if I'm ok,, I say yeah and float around a bit before landing,,well he see's its hardly my first time and says "OH" ,,so he's getting his planes out and I said , actually I've never landed a plane with wheels or fuel..so he gets a trainer out and buddy box and ..well long story short on the 2nd flight I took off and landed a .40 size trainer....kinda tame actually, but I guess thats why those same folks say 1/2a planes are "squirrely"...I have since had 1 plane with wheels its my big plane ,it has an .074 on it.....Rog

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Iv had tons of dead sticks with my electric plane, not sure if that counts tho :) I fly it really really high untill the battery dies and sail it down to a langing. Its fun indeed!

-Fox

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I also agree. We teach our students emergency management, including dead-stick & spins, although most trainers don't really spin -- more of a spiral dive, or vertical roll.

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Britbrat,
If you really want to teach emergency management, kill their motor on the downwind side of the flying field. And then let them get it back down safely. Or better yet, kill the motor on the climbout from a takeoff. And before you ask, yes I do that to my students! :D:D

Ken

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My first dead stick was horrible, i couldn't see where i landed it because it was in a ditch and there was destructions etc.. So i just had to guess and flar at the right time, i think i did because all i had to do was bend the nose wheel back. I was glad.

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I wasn't taught deadsticks at all during my training. but I took my own time and killed the motor myself cause I knew eventually the practice would come in handy.. The other day it did when my StG2300 got stuck at full throttle and I had to fly the full out of it ( Loooooong 23 minutes:)) Landed with NO DAMAGE!

Loops And Rolls

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Ice man,
That would have been a BLAST with an over powered plane like yours is.

haah
chad