Indestructible Trainer
 

Ive got everything I need to fly a plane except the plane. I want something almost indestructible since its my first plane and Im sure I will crash it eventually. I would get a duraplane, but it isnt completely ARF...you still have to conver the wings and buy the wheels. I want a real ARF trainer that comes with everything exept the TX/RX, servos, and engine. I heard about a plane called the Kombat 40 which looking into seems to be a decent trainer. If anyone has had experience or knows much about em let me know. I want a trainer that is not made of balsa. Something hard to break. Something virtually indestructible. I was just wondering if anyone has any other suggestions besides these 2.

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Maybe try building a spad. http://www.spadtothebone.com/

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You've got to be kidding, RIGHT. Heck I could crash / wreck a tank if I tried and you WILL destruct a plane sometime if you get one. To start with -- forget about not destroying a plane and consentrate on trying to get help and taking your time to learn correctly, that's the best NONDESTRUCTION thing going for you. Sorry to be so blut but it's fact. Your starting with the wrong attitude.
Go to a local field and see what is going on there and ask them for assistance, it will be the best thing you can do.

Now as far as a plane that can take a beating, try going to falcon-trading.com . And look at their plastic planes, the Ready is the closest to a trainer and can be used as one if you have assistance. Repairs for some new people are a bit hard but can be done and parts are available. I assumed you were looking for a 40 size plane.

GET the help and Good Luck, I think your going to need it. ENJOY !!! RED

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I was actually looking at the spads right before I read your reply. It is an alternative worth looking into. Thanks.

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Not sure if its the same thing , I remember reading about a plane called Armadillo?? or that may be the company name that makes the combat 40??....Rog

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The word 'virtually' does not mean definitely. I know you can crash and break just about anything. The reason I asked is because I know a lot of balsa trainers out there and Ive looked into just about every one of them. I just want to know if anyone knows of any trainers not made of balsa. Call it personal preference. The duraplane is made of PVC I believe and its very durable, hince the name. There is nothing wrong with wanting the strongest plane you can get.

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Maybe this is what you are looking for.

U.S. AirCore 40 Trainer Kit .40-.50,64"
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...XKH24&P=0#tech
64.99

Fuselage, wings, and tail set made of precision die-cut and
completely pre-decorated, super-durable AirCore material.
Simply fold and glue together with contact cement.
Aircore material bends and returns to it original shape upon impact.
Power Cartridge holds all onboard equipment (engine, servos, tank,
RX, battery) and is transferable to any compatible AirCore plane.

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Yes, thats the Kombat Airmadillos. They make a few different versions of the plane. The company is called "The Airplane Factory."

[link=http://www.kombat40.com/]The Airplane Factory[/link]



Unfortunately they are from Louisiana near New Orleans so I dont know if there business is up and running.

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Do they make the AirCore a ARF instead of a Kit?

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Indestructable? Everything needed to fly it? Meaning a club? Every plane is indestructable for the first month if your part of a club right? If you are part of a club, get a typical Tower Trainer ARF> IT is indestructable, and by that i mean, if you trash it while learning, meaning on a buddy box, with an instructor of the field, theyll send you a new one. Every plane will meet its death.

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Forget about clubs, forget about an instructor. Why is there always someone out there to post useless advice. Please just post suggestions that will be helpful to me. I dont care about clubs or instructors, I already know the importance of that stuff. I only want to know if anyone knows of any good non-balsa trainers out there.

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Dusty, CHILL BRO. I had a spad high wing "trainer" and it flew ok but not nearly as well as my balsa trainer. I'd go wiht a balsa plane if at all possible. You will be much happier.

Edit: We on here feel obligated to give the best advise we can to insure your long enjoyment of this hobby. What he was trying to say is if you get the tower and and instructor and fly at a field that plane will be "indestructable" due to the fact that they will send you a new on if you crash before you learn. NOW if you are unable for what ever reason to get an instructor you could check the spad forum area here on RCU. (At least people were'nt saying you would kill yourself or someone else if you don't get an instructor.):D:D

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Its not that, I just get aggrevated when someone posts a message like I asked a dumb question. I dont have anything against balsa, I just want to know what other options are out there like the Kombat 40 plane. Its an interesting alternative to a regular trainer such as the Tower Hobbies 40. There are so many planes out there and so many choices I just want to know my options before I buy. Besides I kinda want something different.

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How do you get a new plane if you crash using an instrutor? I was not aware of that.

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Someone? Anyone? I can't answer that question. Does anyone have experience with this guarantee? I only know that it exists

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I know the Nextstar has that guarantee if you buy the whole RTF package, but I didnt know it existed with any plane you buy.

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Hobbico Study Birdy II
and duro plane

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not everyplane, but i know that it comes with the Tower Trainer. THats what i got, and if your careful with it, it will last you a LONG time. I have mine for 3/4 years and still counting.

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Dusty, to make you happy, i have this to say to you. Your not oging to stick with your plane all the time. Get what you want, if you crash you got the basics odwn and if you repair it and are smart enough, you wont make the same mistake twice. So pick any trainer. ITs worth it. IF your not gonna get a club, get a video of learning how to solo.

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I want to join a club, but it will be a while. A club is not expensive to keep up with the yearly fee, but to get into a club is expensive at least down here. Before I fly I will be in a club so dont worry. There is nowhere to fly unless you use the club field. But before I think about that I need a plane first. I have access to a simulator and have been using that with my transmitter to learn the basics. If I had access to an electric plane then an instructor and a field/club would not be as much of a problem since electrics are less complicated and can fly in smaller area (less complicated as in no fuel engine to start). I know a sim wont teach me everything, but its good practice. After I pick out a trainer I will get join a club and get an intructor or at least someone willing to show me the ropes. Since the plane I get will have to last for quite some time I want something as durable as they make. I have never owned a plane so I dont know how hard balsa is to fix. Or how costly it is to fix. Right now money is something I have to think about, but hopefully soon it will not be. I have already decided if I go balsa the Tower Trainer is my choice. I just want to weight all my options. The good and bad to see what best fits me.

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I think the spads and the [link=http://www.duraplane.com]Duraplane[/link] are good bets.

And to be honest, you really have to auger a trainer into the ground to destroy it. Years ago (when I was in the hobby for the first time) I saw a guy cartwheel a PT-40. He broke a spar and something in the fuse. He glued it with epoxy taped down some loose covering and flew a couple more times that day.

Just something to think about.

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Parts for trainers are affordable
most of the flying model hobby is fly , fly or fly crash fix or replace parts
and remenber if your going in tail spin let release the stick
you might feel a lot comfortable going to out the city limts to fly
if you dead stick glide it in for landing.

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I have flown bothe the duraplane and the armadillo. They both shoot a very quick landing. they have long takeoffs but they fly fair. I learned on the duraplane but because of the higher speeds necessary to fly over a lighter balsa plane the learning curve was steeper. The plane took me 7 working hours to assemble and was not too bad. think of two nights after work to finish. One of the few planes I ever had to repair with an anvil a two pound sledge and a drill and a vise. one tough little plane, and it attracts negative attention at fields

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Dus,

First of all one of the most sturdy planes out there is the SIG LT-40 which fits your needs perfectly. They take a good beating but do need just one mod. It's best to replace the main gear with a better style, like the dubro fiberglass or H9 aluminum set. Once you are done with training allot of people convert them to taildragger, add bomb drops to drop candy for the kids, tow gliders and a host of other things. Toss an OS46AX in it from the start and when you are done training put on an APC 12.25X3.37 and the plane will really come alive. I'[ve even hovered a LT-40 with the taildragger setup and this prop/engine combo plus increasing the throws. It will have only for 30 seconds or so but it will do it and is plenty aerobatic

BTW...The Nexstar does NOT offer the guarantee if you only purchase the plane.

If you already have a club membership, also try asking them. If they are going to train you then you also want to make sure you have radio gear that's compatible with their buddy boxes if they use themif you have not already done this part.

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I learned on a Spad Debonair, and when it collided with the top of a tree, cartwheeled to the ground, and simply bent the landing gear, the instructor I was flying with commented "Those SPADS are indestructible". Now I've proven that wrong on many an occasion, but they do take a beating. And since their not too expensive to build the airframe, they remove a lot of the beginner jitters (not all, just some). If you take the time and build it according to plans, you will be very happy with it. I still have mine, and everytime I fly it, the club members are impressed that it flys so wheel for so little cost.

Brad