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ABELL 05-11-2006 08:25 PM

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Just a simple question for all you "old heads". How long do you get butterflies in the stomach at the time fuel is getting low and its time to bring you plane in for a beginner not so perfect landing?

RCKen 05-11-2006 08:40 PM

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Are you asking how long of a flight before landing?? Or are you asking how long do we still get butterflies in the stomach???

Ken

ABELL 05-11-2006 08:48 PM

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I am asking do the butterflies go away???????

RCKen 05-11-2006 08:52 PM

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Sometimes. That may not sound like a great answer, but it's the truth. As you become more comfortable with a certain plane you don't get the butterflies as you fly it. Eventually you fly the plane without thinking and you don't worry about what you're doing.

But.................. They come right back as soon as you start taxing out for the maiden flight of a new airplane. And then you start all over again. :D

Ken

gjeffers 05-11-2006 08:57 PM

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Kens right on, as long as i fly one of my "old faithfuls" i have no butterflys, but this past two weekends while maidening and flying my "new"plane i was almost sick, but it is almost gone now after about 14 flights;)

ABELL 05-11-2006 10:33 PM

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beautiful plane gjeffers. I hope to be where you and RCKen are at some day, buuuuuuuuut for now I need many, many more hour of stick time on the 'ol Tower Trainer and Hobbistar Trainer

tucker1865 05-11-2006 11:04 PM

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Abell....When the butterflies go away. Get a faster plane and so on and so on. Keeps the juices flowing. Dave

parrthd 05-12-2006 02:38 AM

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i'll go along with that.....i just graduated to a nice (er.. a handful rather) 300 Extra with a 91 surpass...........:)

broke_n_bummin 05-13-2006 05:41 AM

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When the butterflies go away. Get a faster plane and so on and so on. Keeps the juices flowing.
You have no idea just how true this is. As long as there's a speck of fear, you're on your toes. Just like with electricity. Most of the electrical fatalities are to seasoned electricians who got too comfortable with precedure. I love my P-51 to death!! Next month will be it's 6th birthday. I don't get butterflies with it anymore ... yesterday I came in for a picture perfect landing and forgot to put the gear down ...
As long as you're feeling the butterflies, and your thumb starts to shake as you throttle up, you're doing great!

alan0899 05-13-2006 05:59 AM

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G'day Mate, I tell my students, that they are ready for a new challenge when they forget about landing the plane, until it becomes the thing that they have to do at the end of the flight. Not the thing that they worry about doing all the way through the flight. If ya get my drift. I find that those little things flyin about in ya guts is a good thing for thumb control.
Good flyin mate.
Allan.

ABELL 05-13-2006 07:07 AM

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broke n bumpin I understand the electrical thing. I have been a lineman for 27 years and still around because I respect the stuff. Only been flying a few months, soloed about 2 weeks ago. Everytime it's time to set her down the ol heart starts to race and the butterflies show up. But I don't think this hobby would be as much fun if it weren't for those little rascals floating around down there.

gjeffers 05-13-2006 01:59 PM

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this is why i chose airplanes over monster trucks and all those rc cars, this is for someone that likes to be on his toes and all the time knowing that one mistake, in thumbs or maintanace will lead to your demise:)

i love it:D

joesabido 05-13-2006 02:08 PM

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Butterflies suddently wake up as soon as you run out of fuel in the air :D

red head 05-13-2006 04:28 PM

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Dead sticks are just another way of landing !!!! ENJOY !!! RED

joesabido 05-13-2006 04:29 PM

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Dead sticks are just another way of landing !!!!
Yup, the fun one!! :D

broke_n_bummin 05-14-2006 12:40 PM

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Dead sticks are just another way of landing !!!!
yep ... they're also good for verifying your CG!!
LOL

MinnFlyer 05-15-2006 09:14 AM

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All you have to do is break the plane, fix it, and slap a few pieces of odd colored covering over the fix.

The butterflies go away immediately. :)

agexpert 05-15-2006 05:30 PM

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Butterflies go away a few weeks before caterpillars emerge. And in the winter too. Some are on my windshield right now.

Sorry, I'm an entomologist...could'nt help it.

damien1 05-16-2006 12:29 AM

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I'm just finishing off my second gallon of fuel and I can confidently say I don't get the butterflies anymore. I'm pretty comfortable with my plane and being up in the air is almost routine now. Just take off, fly around, land it. Simple as that. With no challenge, I find myself starting to space off and even engauge in conversation. I think I've pretty well pushed my Nexstar to its aerobatic limits as well. And so, this weekend I'll be out at a friend's look at a new plane he's got me talked into. It sounds like a deal! I need something new and exciting!

gjeffers 05-16-2006 05:30 PM

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thats what its all about Damien:D

agexpert 05-17-2006 07:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: damien1

I'm just finishing off my second gallon of fuel and I can confidently say I don't get the butterflies anymore. I'm pretty comfortable with my plane and being up in the air is almost routine now. Just take off, fly around, land it. Simple as that. With no challenge, I find myself starting to space off and even engauge in conversation. I think I've pretty well pushed my Nexstar to its aerobatic limits as well. And so, this weekend I'll be out at a friend's look at a new plane he's got me talked into. It sounds like a deal! I need something new and exciting!

So, after 2 gallons of fuel you're ready to move to a more aerobatic plane eh? That beats just about everybody here. Congratulations!! It took me almost 1 1/2 gallons to solo. Please clarify exactly what the 'aerobatic limits' of a Nexstar are,.... just so we all will know when we have reached them.

Thanks!!

ABELL 05-17-2006 07:13 PM

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I must be a slow learner. Took me about 2 gal to solo and have gone through another 1 1/2 gal and still get butterflies

gjeffers 05-17-2006 08:16 PM

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now he aint that special, i soloed on my first tankfull, but now this is under special circumstances, and man those vultures in my gut sure were distracting while trying to get back to the runway:)

damien1 05-17-2006 10:34 PM

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Well, to be honest, I never touched a buddy box. The closest thing I had to that was a guy standing behind me giving me little tips and pointers, never touching the controls at all. My first flight was my first take off, solo flight and landing, which was about a month and a half ago. Your first solo was your first tank? Mine was to! It was also the first time my plane was in the air. From what I've heard, solo after 1.5 gallons is good to! Just depends on how you catch on I guess. I've been told it was because I'm 16 and my brain consumes new information lol. Thanks for the comliment agexpert ^_^ And to answer your aerobatic question, the plane aerobatic limits are... not much lol. I can hoover it for a few seconds which is pretty hard to hold and probably the most impressive thing I can do with it. I haven't taken out the dihedral (spelling) or really played with the throw settings at all so this plane could be capable of a bit more then I've achieved thus far. I'm not very far into my reading up on aerobatics so I don't really know any terms to describe what I've been able to do.

gjeffers 05-18-2006 05:41 PM

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Good for you Damian!! i learned with and H9 Alpha by myself and i had no one around to teach me and i always wanted to learn but since i live out next to Death Valley there is not to many people much less people willing to train people on model airplanes:)
soooo i bought my plane and did all the reading i could here and studied hard for about 3 weeks give or take a week:D and unlike you im 52 years young and never backed down from anything that couldnt knock me out, well that was 2.5 years ago and i now have four planes in my hangar and love every minute of it, and may i add im a pretty quick learner for an old guy too:D

good luck to ya and dont let these guys ride ya to hard for learning by yourself[8D]


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