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threechannel 09-12-2006 01:09 PM

Can't wait to get it up.....
 
I went to the hobby shop today and guess what? I got me a Hanger 9 p-40 WARHAWK! That's right, and I don't even have to build it. Just add engine and radio and it's off to the races! The lady was so nice to me. She told me her husband wasen't around but she could surely help me out. I told her I have about 15 flights on my Goldberg Eaglet 50 and I'm ready to move up to something else...that looks more real. She said she has just the right plane for me...and there it was...a p-40 Warhawk! She said if I can fly my eaglet by myself I shouldn't have any problems with the warhawk. She also picked out an engine for it. An OS 91 Surpass 4-stroke.

She told me as I walked out the door..... "You're going to love it" I hope she is right.

I can't wait to fly it!

jimmy

RCKen 09-12-2006 01:18 PM

RE: Can't wait to get it up.....
 
Threechannel,
If you are coming off a trainer then you might want to get some stick time on another plane before you fly the P-40. While Hanger 9 did a great job of taming down a warbird with the P-40, it's still not a good second plane. Trust me, speaking from experience here as I reviewed this plane for RCU. It's not as difficult to fly as some warbirds are, but it's not as easy as a second plane should be. A couple of things that could cause problems are the fact that it has a faster landing speed than a trainer does, and it doesn't deadstick well. In fact, it's quite a handful to fly without the engine running. I'm not trying to throw water on your campfire, because it's quite obvious that you're really excited about this plane, but I'm trying to protect you from a huge letdown if you should crash it.

My advice would be to get some more experience on another plane such as a Tiger II or a 4-star before flying the P-40.

The lady at the hobby store was correct about one thing, you will love it one you get to fly it.

Hope this helps

Ken

MinnFlyer 09-12-2006 01:45 PM

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At the very least, get someone to buddy box with you for the first few flights. Ken is correct, this is not a good choice as a second plane. You MIGHT be able to handle it, but you SURE don't want to find out the hard way!!!!!

Flak 09-12-2006 02:21 PM

RE: Can't wait to get it up.....
 
ThreeChannel,
Have you seen the movie "Christmas Story"? The kid wants a Red Rider BB gun so bad that all he does is day dream about it 24/7. His parents keep telling him if he gets it he'll put his eye out. In the end, his Dad gives him the BB gun for Christmas, and in his excitement, he almost succeeds in making his parents prophecy come true. Listen to those with knowledge. Don't try to fly your P-40 by yourself unless you are an R/C prodegy. Get some help. P-40's are notorious tip stallers at low speeds. I have not flown the Hangar 9 P-40, but I have flown plenty of Top Flite P-40's. I agree you should at least work with an experienced Warbird Pilot on a Buddy Box before you solo your P-40. First time up with a Warbird will either be an Awesome Experience or a Big Letdown. No matter how it goes, don't give up due to minor set backs. I hope she flies fantastic and gives you many enjoyable hours in the air. Good luck.

elenasgrumpy 09-12-2006 05:35 PM

RE: Can't wait to get it up.....
 
Congrats on your new plane. I hope you'll be heeding the advice already given here, I know I will be. I have been maidening all my own planes since my trainers & have maidened six more planes since that time. I am currently working on getting my first Warbird assembled & ready to fly, but this time I will be getting some serious help from an extremely experienced Warbird pilot. He will maiden & trim it for me, & after that we will be flying it together how ever long it takes me to get comfortable with it. It is a 60 size P-51 Mustang with .78 two-stoke engine so it should be fairly hot. Too hot for me to go at alone I'm thinking so I will be taking advantage of the good help available to me. The P-40E is next on my list, as soon as I can get away with putting another bird together. Good luck with yours, do it right they're beautiful airplanes & I'm sure you're going to have a great time with it.

YNOT 09-12-2006 06:21 PM

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Good one Troll.

With that sense of humor, you should be a Pro Bro.

Missileman 09-12-2006 06:36 PM

RE: Can't wait to get it up.....
 
15 flights is not alot of experience to take such a big step.
Not saying you can't do it but I would for shure be on a buddy box for awhile.

bigtim 09-12-2006 07:18 PM

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congrats on your first war bird I also have a H-9 P-40 with a OS 91 fs here is a few tips to pass on your way .
first is make sure your engine is well broken in and running smooth,and you radio is properly installed you need a retract servo also if you havn't got one yet.make sure the retracts don't bind if they do they will run your battery down fast.
I would also recomend a 90o close header for keeping the pipe out of the cowl you can route it out the back and you will not need to cut the cowl I will in close a couple a photos.
a remote glow plug igniter is also needed as well as a fuel dot or a Dubro remote fueler you won't be able to get to your engine with the cowl on .go slow with cutting the cowl .
replace the rear push rods with stiffer ones the ones provided in the kit are super week and can bend under stress the ones for the ailerons are so short you shouldn't have to .
and most importantly have a well seasond pilot check out your bird before you even think about flying there are allot of parts to a warbird

threechannel 09-12-2006 07:53 PM

RE: Can't wait to get it up.....
 
Thanks for all the help. I think I bit off more than I can chew with this warbird! I sure wish her husband was there when I bought it. Maybe he would have suggested something more my level for now.

I figured since she was about 75 yrs old she would have a lot of knowledge and experience on these rc planes.

I better set this aside and get me something else for now.

thanks,

jimmy

bigtim 09-12-2006 08:13 PM

RE: Can't wait to get it up.....
 
try a low wing sport plane like a Sig Somthing Extra . its a tail dragger mid wing will do all the stunts you can think of.
take your time setting the P-40 up read the manual a few times just to get the basics of the plane down. also check the Warbirds section there is a huge section on the H-9 P-40 lots to read you will be surprised this plane is more of a sport plane in warbirds clothing just take your time you will be ready before you know it.

john_s3 09-12-2006 09:05 PM

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These Folks Are Giving Great Advice.A Warbird Can Be A Hand Full.Here Is A Test.Take The Ship Up A Few Hundred Feet Close Your Eyes And Twist The Sticks For A Second.Open Your eyes And Save The Ship.( Just Kidding.It Would Not Be Safe)you Will Need That Kind Of Reactions.You Must Fly The Ship And Not React To What The Plane Is Dong. Make The Plane Do What You Want To Do.In Short You Fly the Plane And Not The Plane Flying You.
I Think A Warbird Should Be Your third Ship.I Would Hate To See You Lose A Ship.
Good Luck.

Missileman 09-12-2006 09:19 PM

RE: Can't wait to get it up.....
 
My path to warbirds started of course with my trainer and then went to a Hobbico Brightstar (out of production now but it is a flat bottom wing, low wing, trike gear with low wing loading)
I am now flying a Hanger 9 P-51 PTS, the only training aid I am using right now is the wing droops. I figure once I get the droops off it will be close to most warbirds in handling and I will be ready for my next step, a Hanger 9 AT-6.

joesabido 09-12-2006 09:40 PM

RE: Can't wait to get it up.....
 
Jimmy,

If you decide to get some stick time with a proper second plane, I recommend the World Models T-34 Mentor

http://airborne-models.com/html/prod...p?ProductID=46

It was my second plane and I enjoyed it as hell (using a Super Tigre G51). It will take the engine and gear you have in your Eagle (assuming you had a 40 to 51 size engine) so you only will be spending on the $130 airframe.

Also, you could get a low-wing taildragger to get used to taildraggers, a Tiger 2 comes to mind, it's a little more expensive though. And if you're on a budget you could get a Sky Rider MKII for $70, it's uglier than a kick in the face but it flys very good and you won't cry if/when you crash it :D

If you decide to follow this path, you can (suppervised by your instructor) gradually add some weight (at the center of gravity of the plane) to get the feeling of how warbirds usually fly & land.

Joseph

chashint 09-12-2006 09:47 PM

RE: Can't wait to get it up.....
 
Here is a link to a really inexpensive low wing plane that should get you ready for your Warhawk.

Sky Raider Mach II S
http://www.airborne-models.com/html/...p?ProductID=16

It is under $80 out the door.
I have the high wing version of this plane and it is a very good bang for the buck.


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