Nose Gear Steering Arm Problem
 

I have finished a Goldberg Tiger 60 ARF, but I have one problem. I'm not getting enough left rudder and left steering because the nose gear steering arm is hitting the firewall. You can see the steering arm at neutral or the straight position in the picture. The others show the difference in left and right rudder. Any help would be appreciated.


Thanks

RE: Nose Gear Steering Arm Problem
 

Simple solution you need to set the tiller arm out away from the firewall about 10 degrees at neutral (may have to file flat on stut a little to achieve) that will solve your problem. You'll only need about five degrees of movement on each side of neutral. This won't seem to be enough but trust me it is.

RE: Nose Gear Steering Arm Problem
 

The problem is that nose gear has already had a flat spot filed and filing it on the other side would just make it weak and bend on a landing.

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hey bud,,,this is SO typical in the trainers,,,so ill try to be as clear as i can for you,,,the control arm on the front wheel has to be moved out so youll have about 1/4 or 3/8 travel each way before the horn hits the firewall,,,once you have this,,you have to make the push rod just a tad longer. Put the servo end of the rod "on the servo horn"as close as it can go to the servo shaft as possable. it doesnt take alot of travel to move the wheel to make it turn,, and it makes it less touchy on take off and landing..let me know how it goes...Rod

RE: Nose Gear Steering Arm Problem
 

I should have said you may have to file the flat spot at more of a angle to move arm from firewall. Does that make sense now?

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if you are worried about filing another flat spot you can visit the local hobby store and buy another front gear

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I have a Tiger 60 and have had nose-wheel problems with it since I had the plane. This was my second plane after solo with my NexSTAR. I love that plane and still have it. However, that nose gear has been a thorn in my side ever since I first flew it. I could never get it adjusted right, at least to what I thought was right. Eventually, it just bent at the flat spot and I would straighten it out, fly it, and it would bend again.

Yeah, I know, this was a good deal a part of my inexperience at the time, and some rather hard landings cause some problems with the nose gear on the Tiger-60. Even now, I fly the plane after fixing the nose-gear, fly it, then upon landing, now, even after several years of experience, find that I bend the nose gear or it twists out of position after one or two flights.

I've 'threatened' to convert it to tail dragger, which I probably will eventually do, because the alternative is a much heavier nose gear which I don't need or to remove it altogether and convert it over.

I have the new Tiger 120 and right out of the box, I converted that to tail dragger. Only one issue is that it was designed as a nose-wheel plane and it needed that extra weight in the nose to make it fly right. I've added quite a bit of nose-weight for the correct CG but it does fly nicely and I don't have to deal with a nose wheel anymore.

DS.

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Nexstar pilot - file the new flat. It only needs to be a VERY shallow flat, just enough not to be round. Normally not that much bending stress on the flatted area because there is a support above and below it.

CGRetired - You need a new strut. Yours has been bent so many times now that the metal has been softened (annealed?) Drop a few pennies and get a new one.:D Upgrade to one of these if you want
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXH126&P=ML STRONG different sizes available.

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Hi Bruce.

Yeah, I bought the Fults system a while back, but they were so heavy compared to the original wire setup. But, you are right, and I knew that, it has just become softened by the constant bending/straightening process that I've done with it. Now, the set screw won't even hold things where they belong. SO, I need to move ahead and decide if I want a nose-steering setup and fix it, or convert it over to a tail dragger. This 'old' plane still flys great, engine is fine.. Super Tigre 75 with a tuned pipe.. so I ought to just get on it and do something about it. To tell you the truth, that's the only reason I don't fly it that much lately, is because of the problem with the nose wheel.

I may have to remove the firewall, rebuild that, and put in the Fults system.. or again, just bite the bullett and convert it. One other guy at the field has a Tiger 60 with nose-wheel problems.. ha.. guess I am not the only one that abused my second plane..

Dick.

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Didn't they tell you that you're NOT supposed to land on the nose wheel? :D It's there for steering and to keep the plane from falling on the nose during taxi. If you ever look at full scale airliners you'll see how wimpy the nose gear is compared to the main gear.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, they told me that... :D but it seemed that, at the time anyway, it's all I could do to get it to land, let alone on the main gear..ha.. That was then.. now, though, I don't do that anymore.. ;) ahem. All the damage was done way back then, but I still try to fix it and fly it the way it is. One problem I have is finding the right 'stock' replacement gear. The wires that are at the LHS are to short. I need a longer wire to fix the problem. I also need to replace the mounting hardware because some of those alleged hard nose landings... [sm=angel_smile.gif] took their toll.

Dick.

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Can't get parts from Goldberg?
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...p?&C=QDJ&V=GBG
None of these is correct?

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I must not have used the right search criteria at Tower when I looked. I kept coming up with the Fults gear. I will take a look at these to see what one may apply.

Thanks!!

Dick.

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On the Goldberg site it says the part is:
P/N 1315
5/32" Nosegear Strut
$2.95
http://www.carlgoldbergproducts.com/tiger60ARF.htm
I don't see that P/N at Tower though. Maybe contact them at
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Bruce.. I just remembered.. I have the saved nosegear from my Tiger 120 that I am sure I can use, modify, whatever, to put on my Tiger 60. Jeech... well, they say that the second thing you loose is your memory.. [&o] :D

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Like everyone has said, you simply need to set the neutral position of the arm further way from the fire wall. As far as the flat spot, I dont think you should even bother making a new one. On my nose gear on my LT-40 I just left the wire round and I have never ever had a problem you just get it good and tight with a tiny bit of thread locker and it will never slip loose. And if you just get sick of the whole nose gear thing, then I know that the Tiger 60 looks and handles very nice as a tail dragger[8D] If you need to you can buy a new nose wheel wire for about $4.

Have fun,

LT-40

RE: Nose Gear Steering Arm Problem
 

Thanks for all of your replies. In response to LT-40; I tried to tighten the set screw on the round part and everytime I put some stress it slipped. I will file my exisisting strut and see how it goes, but anyone know if a new strut from Goldberg would have a filed flat spot already?

Thanks

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These people would know :D
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