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BlackHorsearegreat 02-18-2003 07:40 PM

Which ARTF Trainer?
 
A few of my pals have seen me flying my Weston Cougar 2000 and have decided they want to get Trainers to have a go themselves. I've never had an IC Trainer, as I learnt on electrics and progressed straight onto the Cougar. Which of the following Trainers would you recommend and why?

1) Ripmax Trainer 40
2) Ripmax Nova 40
3) Seagull Arising Star
4) Seagull Boomerang (RTF with IC and Radio fitted)
5) VMAR Discovery
6) Irvine Tutor

Please no "Why Don't They Build a Kit" replies, as my mates are not interested in, nor have the time to build.

Thanlks in advance....

Slug 02-19-2003 10:07 AM

Which ARTF Trainer?
 
Ian,

My latest pupil is using a Seagull Boomerang which I assembled for him (after we pulled the wings off his first trainer, not enough glue at the root, he learned that one the hard way).

An excellent aeroplane, kit goes together well and quickly and it flies like a dream. Has semi symmetrical wings so can do aerobatics for advanced training.

Once I had test flown it I didn't want to hand it over to it's new owner, can't say more than that.

One piece of advise if putting together any nose wheel trainer with steerable front wheel, keep the degree of movement very small.

Simon.

BlackHorsearegreat 02-19-2003 06:58 PM

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Thanks Simon!

I was sort of leaning towards that way due to the favourable review in last months Model Flyer, and the fact that practically everything is done for you (radio, engine etc).

Funnily enough, the review said the same thing, although it was a trainer, they didn't want to give it to their newbie as it flew so well. Cheers fella.

acropad 02-19-2003 11:24 PM

I WOULD DEFINETLY RECOMEND THE....
 
Hi. i am training my younger brother (aged 10) at the moment. We are using the buddy box etc. he is getting on good at the moment.

The aeroplane we are using is the Frontier 20 (almost ready to fly) which is quick to build (ask your self if the cougar was because its about the same) This plane flys better than any other trainer i have ever flew. i fly an extra 300xs.
i tried every think i could to get a picture of the frontier on the attachment but its too big of a file. But if you really are interested in the frontier and would like pictures and more info i can give you it so dont hesitate (pics and info by e-mail)

*We are using an OS 25FP/FX
*Futaba S148 servos (4) throttle/ailerons/elevator/rudder
*5 Channel FM Futaba Receiver
this setup is very good.

are you woried that it wont take of on ruff grass?well i fly at the kirby feild and you can not get much ruffer than that, the grass is about 5inches high and there are golfers holls all over and also rutts of the motor bikes but with the OS 25FX I can tell you is no problem, it does not need handlaunching its just spot on.

if your mate decides to get this plane tell him that when he has build it he will find the back tail sticks up higher than the nose (its normal) it dosent look it but it is..

any way i hope this has helped you to make the right choice....paddy







here is a bit of info i got for you of the net:

Frontier 20

Catering for everyone, the Frontier 20 is a slightly smaller version of the Frontier 40. The model will fly on a 15 size engine, but may need hand launches on low power. Best suited to a20 or 25 size two stroke the model is available in red or blue at 54 inch wing span it’s still a very stable trainer for smaller engines. Price £89.99

*it sounds like the 40 is better which is another option.

Here is aFrontier 40

Slightly smaller than the Super Stunts, it’s low wing ‘sister model’, being only 64" in wingspan, but a slightly heavier construction make this a rugged primary trainer and the ideal choice for the absolute beginner. Ideally suited to a standard .40 two stroke, the Frontier 40 is extremely stable, even in a stiff breeze and is the choice of several local clubs as their club trainer. It is one of the most popular Model trainers in the U.K. Available in red or blue colour schemes. Price £99.99
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BlackHorsearegreat 02-21-2003 11:14 PM

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Cheers Paddy, will check this one out. You been flying for long mate? There's a lad in our club who's only 8, but he can't half fly. Typical kid, no fear just throws it around.

4 of us in our club have Weston UK Cougar's, kinda gets a bit confusing when they are all in the air at once LOL

Woodsy 02-22-2003 12:43 AM

Which ARTF Trainer?
 
Guys for a cheap, easy to build trainer that will take a few knocks have a look at the Debonair and BUHOR at www.spadtothebone.com

then go to the spadworld forum for all the hel;p and asistance you could ask for

acropad 02-22-2003 12:49 AM

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quite good, only 15, do pretty much anything.
only actually been flying for just over a year, learnt vey quick as my dad has been flying for several years.

ive got a Limbo Dancer which is very similar to the Cougar.

if you give me your e-mail address ill send a few snaps of the frontier.

Paddy

BlackHorsearegreat 02-22-2003 09:46 AM

Which ARTF Trainer?
 
Did you get the Frontier from Webbs in Frodsham? The only place I've seen em.

Follow the link to our website below, and you can email me there.

Skoalz 02-22-2003 07:00 PM

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I'd definately choose the SPAD Debonair or BUHOR. These are easier to put together than an ARF, FAR CHEAPER, fly as well, and are more durable. If you do manage to damage one, replacement parts are at the hardware store.

That being said, if you go with a Balsa ARF, you should really consider the trainers from World Models (www.airborne-models.com). My favorite of those planes is the Worldstar Trainer. It has a semi-symetrical airfoil and will allow a pilot to progress beyond a typical trainer. It is a .40 size plane. They also have the Frontier .40 (same thing, flat bottomed airfoil) that is also a great value.

If you are looking for a .25 size trainer, the Frontier .20 is a good choice. If your friends are brave, they can start with the Happy Fly .20. It has a symetrical airfoil and will even make advanced pilots smile.

These are GREAT ARFs. Low cost, High Quality. However, I'd still go with the SPADs! 1/10th the cost for the airframe.

acropad 02-23-2003 10:12 PM

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here they are Ian.

Finally, Sorry for the wate!

acropad 02-23-2003 10:15 PM

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