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shd3920 04-25-2007 12:43 PM

FUEL FILTERS
 
How important/neccessary are fuel filters for glow engines and how do you install them?

piper_chuck 04-25-2007 12:47 PM

RE: FUEL FILTERS
 
Some people swear by them, others swear at them. ;) I'm in the camp that believes they are not necessary as long as you keep your fuel supply clean and regularly flush the fuel tank.

To install them you just cut the line between the tank and needle valve and add the filter.

rwright142 04-25-2007 12:50 PM

RE: FUEL FILTERS
 
I have a fuel filter on my gallon jug of fuel so the fuel is filtered when I fill up the tank. I don't have one on my planes.

KC36330 04-25-2007 01:26 PM

RE: FUEL FILTERS
 

ORIGINAL: rwright142

I have a fuel filter on my gallon jug of fuel so the fuel is filtered when I fill up the tank. I don't have one on my planes.
that works as long as you never use your fuel jug to de-fuel the plane because de-fueling adds all the trash (metal wear that comes in with exhaust pressure) to the out side of the filter and then you push all that back into the tank next time you fuel up. i run a filter in line with all my carbs as well as on the fueling system and do my best to run the tank dry and not have to de-fuel.

kc

Dr1Driver 04-25-2007 02:16 PM

RE: FUEL FILTERS
 
An inline filter between the tank and engine can clog or loosen and mess up the mixture. I use a klunk and inline filter in my supply jug filling line. Keep the filler nozzle off the ground and your fuel will be clean when you pump it into the tank. Anything that's pumped in when de-fueling will be filtered out when you fill again.

Dr.1

ag4ever 04-25-2007 02:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: Dr1Driver

An inline filter between the tank and engine can clog or loosen and mess up the mixture. I use a klunk and inline filter in my supply jug filling line. Keep the filler nozzle off the ground and your fuel will be clean when you pump it into the tank. Anything that's pumped in when de-fueling will be filtered out when you fill again.

Dr.1
Not if it came from your tank, and is caught by the fuel filter. It will flow back into the tank when you fill the next tank.

I never thought about the crap from the muffler pressure. I had pointed out to a fellow new flier at the field that when he fill his tank thru the plane's filter that if he does not reverse the filter anything it caught while fueling will be immediatly sent to the needle.

I think I will start defueling thru a different hose than for fueling.

edberg 04-25-2007 02:38 PM

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Wont all that muffler crap get into your fuel tank though the vent then into your engine? I've never used a filter, don't know if there are any downsides to using one eather.

KC36330 04-25-2007 02:57 PM

RE: FUEL FILTERS
 

ORIGINAL: edberg

Wont all that muffler crap get into your fuel tank though the vent then into your engine? I've never used a filter, don't know if there are any downsides to using one eather.

i use em on everything and never have had a problem with them, don't know the problem Dr1Driver might be having with his/her setup but I'd recommend one between the carb and the tank. also always fill your tank between the filter and the tank, not through the filter. on turbine engines i always mount the filter vertically to prevent air getting trapped in it but with a glow engine their size is so small that's never been a problem, glow engines also don't flame out as easily from a trapped bubble in the filter when it comes through, it just leans the mixture for a split second and then right back to what you had.

kc

EDIT: FYI, those who don't use an in line filter you should stay away from a pumped engine such as YS's, Gasser's, Turbine's, etc......

rclement 04-25-2007 03:08 PM

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I usually just use one in the fill line from the jug but if I do use one on the plane I use this one. [link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFU76&P=ML]sullivan[/link] It doesn't come apart so there's less to mess up.

mscic-RCU 04-25-2007 03:24 PM

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I use one in the fuel jug on the fill line. clean it when the fuel flow diminishes, probably once a season.

2HI2C 04-25-2007 04:03 PM

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I use one at the pump. When defueling I switch it to another line so it doesn't go through that filter. None on the airplane.

DaveB 04-25-2007 04:11 PM

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I am just now planning to use a fuel filter for the first time. One of the reasons I am going to install a filter between the tank and carb is that with a 2 line system (1 vent and 1 klunk) is that it is very difficult to remove the fuel line at the engine because of the tight engine installation and rear mounted needle valve. I will just cut the fuel line and install the filter. I believe for this particular plane (GP Super Sportster), it will make it a little easier to fuel and I can reap the benefits of the filter.

DaveB

Jim Thomerson 04-25-2007 06:30 PM

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I fuel with a syringe. There is a filter clunk and an Sullivan filter, as shown in the link above, in the line when I fill the syringe. I take the filters off to fuel the tank with the syringe. There is another filter, usually a Sullivan, between the tank and carb. Noticed it was getting hard to suck fuel into the syringe. Sullivan filter was clean. Took the clunk filter apart and it was full of fuzzy stuff. Cleaned it out and went my merry way.

TexasAirBoss 04-26-2007 12:02 AM

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I have one screen on the bottom of the pick-up line in my gallon jug. I have another screen that is part of a filter/nipple combo used to fuel the models. Both are part of my support equipment. I have no screens on my airplanes.

bigtim 04-26-2007 02:24 AM

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I woud say I am with the majority here my fuel jug has a filter and I replace it yearly.
if I notice any crud in my fuel filling jug I will empty it and clean it out.

cruzomatic 04-26-2007 05:00 PM

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I filter once in the can and again between the carb and tank. Who knows,,,,,,,just fly man!!!:D

oldhippy1 04-26-2007 05:57 PM

RE: FUEL FILTERS
 
I guess I am in the minority when it comes to using Fuel Filters.
I have never yet used them. Most people I fly with do not use them too.

Jim Thomerson 04-26-2007 08:55 PM

RE: FUEL FILTERS
 
The two fields where I fly are 49 and 62 miles away, respectively. Contests are from 250 to 1000 miles away. So I try to make sure that all my stuff will work when I get there. That's why I use filters, etc. The filters were no help that time I forgot to load my airplanes before taking off for the flying field. [X(] Fortunately, I realized it before I was halfway there and went back home and got them.

spiral_72 04-27-2007 09:23 AM

RE: FUEL FILTERS
 
I just had a thought, Uh-oh.

If I put a filter in the fuel jug on the line..... use a t-connector after the filter (on the out, side) and install a check valve.... all inside the jug. That way, when you fill the tank, it'll pull fuel through the filter. When you de-fuel it'll route through the check valve back into the jug (and not through the filter). Junk will collect in the jug and the filter, but everything else stays clean. I hope that makes sense. Now'd be a good time for some nice ascii drawing, but I'm not gonna try[:'(]

KC36330 04-27-2007 10:11 AM

RE: FUEL FILTERS
 
the first little tiny microscopic minuscule piece of trash will get caught in the check valves and stick them open. that's why on pumped engines you have to use a filter or you have problems with the pump and regulator.

kc

kc

spiral_72 04-27-2007 11:31 AM

RE: FUEL FILTERS
 
Oh, well. I THOUGHT it was a good idea. Maybe I'll try it for kicks. Maybe if I keep the check valve high enough in the jug it'll just suck air when it sticks. That way I'll know when it's time to replace.




ORIGINAL: KC36330

the first little tiny microscopic minuscule piece of trash will get caught in the check valves and stick them open. that's why on pumped engines you have to use a filter or you have problems with the pump and regulator.

kc

kc

aerowoof 04-27-2007 02:38 PM

RE: FUEL FILTERS
 
I used to use filters on all planes between the tank and carb,but as the fleet grew it became too expensive so a crap trap went in the fill line from the pump .since i run the tank dry on the last flight of the day de fueling is not an issue.

Wild Foamy 04-28-2007 04:26 PM

RE: FUEL FILTERS
 
i stick a tornado fuel filter about mid-way between the tank and carb on my Savage, Tmaxx and MFA and have never had any problems, i will up using the second inlet line (on my MFA tank there are 3 lines, 1 going to the carb, one coming from the muffler and a spare one with a one-way valve fitted which i fuel through)

ELTIGRE 05-15-2007 05:03 PM

RE: FUEL FILTERS
 
fuel filter SHOULD be used. the problem become one of where. in the tank or in the feed line they can leak & they can get clogged. anothe fitting to be concerned with. personally ive never seen one "unclog" itself either. using them in the jug seems to work well for me & Ive very seldom had problems mostly because im a stickler about keeping all fuel lines clean. its some what immaterial if you dont follow with using an AIR CLEANER as your engine sucks in huge quanties of dust.


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