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mrlikescheese 06-18-2007 03:38 PM

Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
There are so many different choices of kits that i want for my second plane. Ill just have u guys tell me what i should get.

rwright142 06-18-2007 03:54 PM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
Give us some ideas of what style you are looking for. For example, tail dragger, low wing, etc...
I got the [link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=SIGA5116]Sig Four-Star 40 Kit[/link] because I was wanting a low wing tail dragger and I love the plane.

mrlikescheese 06-18-2007 04:01 PM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
i just want a plane that i can fly easily and then put it up on high rates and learn some aerobatic stuff. i can do a lot of aerobatic and 3D stuff on the simulator and i would like to do it on a real plane.

bigedmustafa 06-18-2007 04:08 PM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
Naturally I'd have to pick something that's not on your list, but I'd recommend you look very closely at the Great Planes Rapture .40 kit. It's a good beginner's kit with interlocking parts and very good instructions. It's a nice flying low-wing sport plane, too, that is a great second aircraft once you're ready to move on after flying your high-wing trainer.

The Rapture is available only as a kit. Building can be its own reward, but I'd hate to spend the extra time and money building a plane from a kit that is available in an ARF. Too many folks who've never built before would be like, "Oh yeah, I had one of those."

Great Planes quality, interlocking construction, and an airframe only available as a kit. What more could you want?

XTOL 06-18-2007 04:44 PM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
Assuming your first plane was a typical high wing trainer Im
going to suggest a plane not on your list. A frequently overlooked
and underrated plane by many is the Sig Midstar.

The Midstar is the ideal 2nd airplane. Its aerobatic enough to
keep you interested and stable enough to keep you from
getting into too much trouble. Plus its rugged enough to survive the
abuse a 2nd plane is likely to get.

Most trainers only really teach you the bare basics. Mostly
how not to crash. Your 2nd plane is the one you really
learn to FLY.

The Midstar is a kit. It has rugged lite ply fuselage and
the same basic wing as the Sig Four Star. With a potent
46 in the nose it can do all the basic aerobatics.

I have had mine for over 4 years and it has 100s of flights on it.
It has a TT 46 Pro and I still enjoy flying it occasionally.

There are lots of more aerobatic planes out there. But Ive
seen plenty of new pilots damage those kinds of planes while still
in the learning process.

Mike Hammer

edsland 06-18-2007 04:48 PM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
I built a Topflight Elder and it's really a nice plane to fly but build wise you should have a few kits under your belt. There is alot of sheeting with compound curvers and the open rear section is a little tough to build straight.

escipion 06-18-2007 04:51 PM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
Hello!!!!
I’m agree with XTOL.
Another good first kit but second plane is the stick. It is not the pretties one, but surely a great second plane, if you can handle a stick you can fly almost any airplane

Escipion

ABELL 06-19-2007 11:11 AM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
I'd have to go with a Tiger either a 40 or 60 pretty easy building kit and great flyer. Durable too.

mrlikescheese 06-19-2007 11:21 AM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
Ill probably get my kit this weekened if i have enough money and ill buy the one with the highest votes, so hurry up and vote!

Alex7403 06-19-2007 06:19 PM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
im building the Sig mid star 40, VERY easy kit, has an option of trike and tail dragger
people praise it, im happy.
i recomend it

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5821118/tm.htm

Alex

hungryandbroke 06-19-2007 08:17 PM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
The only good one on your list is the Sig Something Extra. You put that on high rates and you better be ready on the sticks! On low rates it is very aerobatic and lands very easily.

A Goldberg Tiger 2 would be a nice plane for you. Easy to fly and not bad looking either.

Don't overlook the Sig Mayhem either. Nice looking and a nice aerobatic flyer.

good luck


Radar5756 06-20-2007 06:08 AM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
Hello everyone! I am in the final stages of completing a dura plane aerobat 40. They say it is almost indestructible. We shall find out if it is.

mrlikescheese 06-20-2007 10:35 AM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
I heard that those things fly like bricks, but u can still have fun with them.

somegeek 06-20-2007 11:05 AM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
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'nother vote for the Sig Somethin' Extra. Great building plane and flys on rails.

somegeek

mrlikescheese 06-20-2007 11:22 AM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
looks like the Somithin Extra is winning.

XTOL 06-20-2007 11:38 AM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 


ORIGINAL: mrlikescheese

looks like the Somithin Extra is winning.
The Somethin Extra is a great airplane. Its an extremely easy
kit to build. All laser cut and the parts literally just fall together.
They say all you need to do is open the box and drop in a bottle
of glue and then shake. Out pops a SE ready to go. Its almost
that easy.

The only downside is its a bit more fragile than something
like the Midstar. The thin 16th inch sheeting is easy to break.
Ive had to repair mine several time due to hanger damage.
Its very aerobatic and can be a handful if you have the throws
too high.

Also if you like high speed planes then this is not the plane for you.
The SSE excels at low speed aerobatics. Trying to fly it fast is
a mistake. Its just not designed for that.

Also if you want to use anything larger than a 46 size motor
you will need to buy a taller aftermarket landing gear. The largest
prop you can safely swing with the stock gear is 11.5 inches.
I use an APC 11.5 X 4 and a TT46 on mine. Good combo.

ANY of the planes you listed and the ones that others have
mentioned would be a good plane for you. They all have
their strengths and weaknesses. There is only one real
answer...BUILD THEM ALL!

Mike Hammer

Alex7403 06-20-2007 11:45 AM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
I'm a begginer!

I had a aerobatic plane with short wing span, wide control surfaces and thick profile wings it was called hobbico starfire 40.
Me, I’ve flown planes with low wing and trikes, and this hobbico starfire for me was constant struggle to keep it in the air, it was no fun!, sure I landed it nicely few times, but one time I was too slow on landing approach and it just fell from the sky and crushed.

Now I decided to go a step back and to build a good structure plane, that behaves as a trainer especially on landings but also can take whatever you throw at him.

I choose the most simple kit I could find, I don’t believe in fixing ARFs.
I’m building the Sig mid star 40, and it looks like its an easy plane to control, and ply wood structure is strong and easy to fix.

Good Luck with any choice

mrlikescheese 06-20-2007 12:07 PM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
I cant wait to get my first kit!

somegeek 06-20-2007 12:29 PM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 

ORIGINAL: mrlikescheese
The only downside is its a bit more fragile than something
like the Midstar. The thin 16th inch sheeting is easy to break.
Ive had to repair mine several time due to hanger damage.
Its very aerobatic and can be a handful if you have the throws
too high.
Agree - minimize any sanding of the sheeting. I sanded the sheeting too thin on one wing and punched my thumb through it when picking it up.


Also if you like high speed planes then this is not the plane for you.
The SSE excels at low speed aerobatics. Trying to fly it fast is
a mistake. Its just not designed for that.
Agree - this plane can move but the wings are pretty thick and not built for speed.


Also if you want to use anything larger than a 46 size motor
you will need to buy a taller aftermarket landing gear. The largest
prop you can safely swing with the stock gear is 11.5 inches.
I use an APC 11.5 X 4 and a TT46 on mine. Good combo.
I'm running an OS .46AX w/ baffle removed turning a APC 12x3.75 and it's not really fast, but pulls like a tractor on the uplines and slows it nicely on the downlines at an idle.

somegeek

escipion 06-21-2007 11:46 AM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
Hello!!!!
I believe the something extra is not a good choice for a second airplane, maybe as a third plane.

Great planes use to have a plane called EasySport, It's a good choice for a second plane, if you can find it

Escipion

Stickbuilder 06-21-2007 12:14 PM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
I would have to vote for either the 4 Star, or the BTE Venture 60. Both build really well, and the flight envelope is about right for a newbie builder/flyer. It can get out there, but can also be flown in a docile manner. But, you didn't have either one on your list. Best of luck...(you'll probably need it)

Bill, AMA 4720
WACO Brotherhood #1

FredRasener 06-21-2007 12:17 PM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
It is hard to beat a sig four star or a goldberg tiger. In my opinion these are both great second planes. If you try to advance too quickly you miss some basic skills needed later for more advanced aircraft.

BUT, since those are not on your list I voted for the something extra. BE SURE to use the recommended rates and CG at first and it will be a blast

Have Fun

mrlikescheese 06-22-2007 11:25 AM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
Yesterday at our club, one of our members brought his Uproar. this was his second plane and second kit and he said it was pretty easy to build. He said that he would let me fly it on the buddy box with him. He did make some modifications that made it look and fly better too. He made the control surfaces bigger and he had a turtle deck and canopy on it. It looked really nice. i think im going to get one of those cuz i already have the money for it, and ill probably make the same modifacations as him too.

I cant wait!

mrlikescheese 06-23-2007 08:58 PM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
Now im thinking of buying a Tiger 2 from a friend for $40 bucks already built. That's a really good deal!

tychoc 06-24-2007 11:30 AM

RE: Good First Kit But Second Plane
 
mrlikescheese

I thought you were looking for a kit to build as the tread subject suggests.
Anyway, the Tiger 2 is a great second plain, as is the 4* and the SSE.

I get the feeling you're quite young, so a good idea is to go with whatever someone experienced at you field can help you with.
If this guy has the Tiger 2 for sale, then that's a good option if you don't want to build. You can always get the Tiger 2 to learn on and get a kit to build on the side. That way you don't have to feel rushed in order to get it built and ready to fly.

-tychoc


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