Spinner question
 

Hi,

I'm getting a new plane Pheonix Strega .40 and I'm putting a .46 Thunder Tiger on the plane... Since the cockpit is already silver I was thinking, instead of puttin the red spinner, I could put a chrome one to better the look... The only thing is that since I didn't received the kit yet, I have no idea of what size of spinner to order for it...
any of you guys would know what size of spinner would fit and also what brand?

Thanks

Eric

RE: Spinner question
 

The default size for the Strega is 2.25 spinner That airplane is very popular here for pylon with about 18 locally in use and most will use aluminum spinners up to 2.5 inch and either standard or long styles.

If You want plastic I recommend the CB assiciates spinner sold by RJL. It is a superior single bolt plastic type with an aluminum back plate and a capture grove.

Generally the black color is preferable as it does not show the starter burn marks that most people usually end up with.

If you want a CB type I will dig up the link for both a long or standard syle and about eight bucks.

John

RE: Spinner question
 

Did you guys used any templates for your black sticker or you just improvised? They look very nice... I also like the black spinner with the silver blade...
My Strega is in the mail and I will let you guys know what I do with it...

Thanks again...
Eric

RE: Spinner question
 

Hi and thanks Eric. Here is a direct link for the best type of plastic spinner to use in the 21/4 inch size the plastic is thicker than all the others and backplate is aluminum with a capture grove on the perimeter. A single bolt holds the spinner to a propnut adapter.

http://www.mecoa.com/cb/spinners.htm

Most of the guys will just use ultracoat colors for triming as they wish. The airplane comes just orange with two small white stripes on top of the stabilizer that are easily striped off then trim as you wish. In the pics the Spook and Le Don Dorato are mine and the lettering is easy at most sign shops, called vinyl grafics. Just tell them what you want and the size along with an idea of the letter style and they will make them up for you. Far better than any sticker they are micro thin without causing noticible ridges and will not peel from fuel. On my two ships the lettering on each airplane cost 10 bucks, five for each side.

We Race in three classes and the bronze airplanes do great stock with 46's. The silver work great stock with .61's and some sort of tuned pipe. The gold airplanes the YS 110 four stoke is king running 45% nitro. With the Golds the wing and stabilizer must undergo major mods and that is why Le Don Dorato has an all black wing as it was stripped when new for the mods.

These airplanes have proven to be the ideal first warbird and well as warbird pylon racers. They fly very well indeed. However they are not trainers and not suitable as a first or second airplane.

Here is an added picture of Le Don Dorato showing the graffics.

John

RE: Spinner question
 

Hi John,

Got my Phoenix Strega two days ago... Started the build yesterday... as I was putting the wings together in the instruction they say to use a Y cervo extention... The guys that sold me the plane told me to keep it seperate and to put it in slot 1 for one side and slot 6 for the other and the plane would be more responsive and also more fun to fly... I know that you guys have a couple what do you sugest?

Thanks for the help...
Eric

RE: Spinner question
 

Using two ailerons servos as opposed to one aileron servo will usually improve response but the airplane is already set up for two servos. Now using a Y cord for two servos on one aileron channel or using two servos with the second on a slaved channel mixed to the aileron channel will not increase response or feel, There is no difference in that regard.

The differance is using both servos on separate channels will allow for a little more versatility in making fine and seperate electronic adjustments thats all. Also this will allow the use of flaperons which is a really, really bad idea. The use of flaperons will turn this nice handling and easy landing airplane into an awful nightmare to land.

So you see which method you use makes no differance, Oh and your radio must be capable of that type of mix to do it.

John

RE: Spinner question
 

So if I realy grasp all your saying it would be easier to put it on a Y for now and when I get more experience with it I could easilly convert it to two chanel with the slave option... My radio is a 7 chanels and it's capable of the mixing no problem... Anyway I went to buy the Y anyway... so since I have it might as well use it... I also got myself a external charger connector and a Easy fueler valve to make my life a bit easier at the field...

RE: Spinner question
 

Correct there is no advantange to using two separate channels for the ailerons on this airplane other than fine tuning the throws. This can be done just as well mechanically.

The external charge plug is a good idea and I always use some form of this.

In my opinion fueling ports or valves are a bad idea and only serve to cause problems at some point even running problems.

What I always do regardless of the type airplane, a simple two line system just exactlty like every trainer, Don,t even llike three line systems with a fueling dot, Seen too many people looking on the ground for a lost dot or trying to stick a nail in the hose. One less hose to leak and cause problems.

Here is how it is done on a cowled airplane:

RE: Spinner question
 

Do you punch a hole before the fire wall? sorry about all the questions... Just starting.. so if I realy understand instead of passing the tube in the fire wall you just put a hole on the side and stick the pipe in it... and you use a cupling to joint the two pipes... Pretty neet and must work pretty good... I was wondering why most of your pictures you had some medical clips holding your pipes on the sides... Now I know... will go to bed less stupid tonight... ;)
Thanks for your great help... I hope the weather stick around... want to go fly my other plane tonight...

Take care...
eric

RE: Spinner question
 

Yup you got it, clunk line out the side just behind the firewall and and back in a slot or hole in the cowl. Split at that point with a little slack and insert a 3/8 length of alum or bronze fuel tube. You fuel at that point toward the tank and you cannot flood or hydro lock the engine.

The hemostat is for a different reason, when you fully invert the engine as opposed to the 135 degree position suggested by the manual it is difficult to get the fuel tank low enough to completely eliminate syphoning so on those I channel out the top of the wing so the tank will set even lower. After fueling the hemostats are put on the line and it is plugged back in and they are removed just before starting. Often when fueled and sitting in the sun the fuel will expand and start a syphon.

With any inverted installation always hand pull an engine through while pinching that fuel line loop to confirm there is no hydrolock. Hitting a hydrolocked engine with a powerfull starter can severly damage any engine. If you have a hydro lock disconnect that fuel loop and pull the plug then spin the engine a few seconds with the starter, It will be obvious.

With the 135 degree mounting this problem is not a major problem however the hemostats untill ready to start are always a good idea.

The big YS fourstrokes that are used in this airplane for the gold class are not a problem this way as they untilize a completely closed circuit fluid pump system and cannot hydro lock while fueling or sitting.



John