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TopherGreen81 07-23-2007 07:49 AM

Servos problems
 
I just got a new radio The Airtronics RD6000 Super and I charged the batterys and hook every thing outside the plane before I installed it and the servo start twitching when I turn on the Tx. I don;t understand what the problem is. Can anyone shed some light on this subject.
Thanks
Chris

MinnFlyer 07-23-2007 08:14 AM

RE: Servos problems
 
You may be "Swamping". This happens when the signal is too strong.

Try carrying the Tx across the room.

Warbird Joe 07-23-2007 08:15 AM

RE: Servos problems
 


ORIGINAL: TopherGreen81

I just got a new radio The Airtronics RD6000 Super and I charged the batterys and hook every thing outside the plane before I installed it and the servo start twitching when I turn on the Tx. I don;t understand what the problem is. Can anyone shed some light on this subject.
Thanks
Chris

Hello Chris. It sounds like you had the servos hooked up first then turned on the TX. the servos are twitching because they couldn't lock into anything. You should always turn on the TX first then the RX and vice versa when turning them off. RX then the TX. that should fix your problem.

TopherGreen81 07-23-2007 09:02 AM

RE: Servos problems
 
I will try that. I have one more question can you charge both the Tx battery and the Rx battery at the same time on the charger that came with the radio? And will it make the battery charge slower?
Thanks for the quick replys
Chris

Nathan King 07-23-2007 09:11 AM

RE: Servos problems
 
You can safely charge both batteries at the same time with no reduction in charge time. The rating you see on the sticker will always be met since the small voltages and low amperage rates are nowhere near the capacity of a home electrical circuit.

Warbird Joe 07-23-2007 09:16 AM

RE: Servos problems
 
Hello Topher. If you have a charger that has both the TX and RX connectors on it you can charge them both. No problem at all.

scratchonly 07-23-2007 12:55 PM

RE: Servos problems
 
Have you selected PPM on your MOD menu? Or are you running PCM?

TopherGreen81 07-23-2007 12:58 PM

RE: Servos problems
 
Its set to PCM but I have no idea of what it needs to be in. Any ideas?

Wild Foamy 07-23-2007 01:02 PM

RE: Servos problems
 
do you have a PCM reciever or PPM?

if its a PPM/single conversion reciever then you need to set your TX to PPM

TopherGreen81 07-23-2007 01:12 PM

RE: Servos problems
 
Its the Airtronics 92777/72 FM Blue Rx Dual Conversion Narrow band. I don't know if its a PCM or not. Sorry this radio stuff is confusing.
And thanks again for all the help.
Chris

Wild Foamy 07-23-2007 01:19 PM

RE: Servos problems
 
ive had a looka t that reciever but it does not say if it is PCM or PPM, but i would think if its a dual conversion it is likely to be a PCM

try your transmitter on PPM just to be sure ;)

Missileman 07-23-2007 01:42 PM

RE: Servos problems
 
Dual conversion or single conversion has absolutely nothing to do with weither it is PPM or PCM.
And FM is another term for PPM so your RX is PPM not PCM.
Set your radio for PPM and your twitching will stop if there are no other issues.

FlyingGreg 07-23-2007 03:01 PM

RE: Servos problems
 
I had the same thing happen with my Fut 9C. It's a PCM transmitter, but all my receivers are PPM. With an 18 plane memory, every time I add another plane, I have to remember to switch to PPM in the MOD menu. Several times I have scrathced my head while all the servos go wild. No expereince with Airtronics, but sounds like you guys above have the problem solved.

jetmech05 07-23-2007 03:34 PM

RE: Servos problems
 
If the transmitter was right next to the receiver while doing this check then you over powered the receiver. walk a few feet away antenna down and see if this twitching stops.
goog luck

TopherGreen81 07-23-2007 07:28 PM

RE: Servos problems
 
Alright I walked away from the receiver the twitching stop but I still have no control of the servos so I am just out of range. I have the Tx set to PPM and the batterys are fully charged. I tried to call Airtronics but got no answerso you guys are all I got, So whats next on the list.
Thanks
Chris

Missileman 07-23-2007 07:37 PM

RE: Servos problems
 
Wow, not being there to look at it makes it tough to diagnose.
My Futaba has to be turned off then back on when switching from PCM to PPM, not sure about the airtronics,try that.
Have you got your reciever antena stretched out?(receiver)
Crystal fully seated?
Is your battery plugged right into your receiver or through a switch? Try plugging directly into your receiver.

jetmech05 07-23-2007 08:00 PM

RE: Servos problems
 
ok check list time
1 antenna for receiver stretched out
2 battery hooked up to receiver and if through a switch, switch on, battery still charged?
3 chrystal in reciever? and the same freq as the transmitter?
4 transmitter still on and charged?
5 if its not any of these things try a new receiver oh check your connections

opjose 07-23-2007 08:16 PM

RE: Servos problems
 
To which I would add...

3.5 Shift pattern set identically in TX and RX.
3.6 Modulation set identically TX and RX, e.g. PPM on both?
3.7 Crystal on RX fully seated, and ideally made by Aitronics?

CGRetired 07-24-2007 05:36 AM

RE: Servos problems
 
Ummm... is the RX the same channel as the TX? ( as in - is the RX channel 42 (for instance) and the TX channel 42 also? )

TopherGreen81 07-24-2007 07:43 AM

RE: Servos problems
 
I am have tried everything so now I guess I am going to try new crystals and then a new receiver. I am going to take to the LHS and see if they will help me get it solved so I don't have to buy stuff thats not going to work. Thank you guys so much for all the help and if there is something else that has not been tried let me know. I will let you guys know what they say this afternoon at the LHS.
Thanks
Chris

craigpuckett 07-24-2007 08:28 AM

RE: Servos problems
 
Boy,I hate to hear of you having problems whth the Airtronics system as I have just recieved a VG6000 for my second system.[:o]I wanted something compatable with my JR system is the reason I picked airtronics.

I hope it all works out for you:)

CGRetired 07-24-2007 09:59 AM

RE: Servos problems
 
Don't fret over that. It will probably turn out to be something simple.. well, we can all hope.

Regarding the Airtronics systems, well, I have an RD-6000 and an RD-8000 and love them. They have given me great service even through my abuse of the TX's.

I have a Spektrum DX7 also which gets most of the use lately, but for crystalized RX's, I still stick with my Airtronics (now mostly used on my electric powered planes).

scratchonly 07-24-2007 11:44 AM

RE: Servos problems
 
Have you tried both PP and PPR (reverse shift)?

TopherGreen81 07-24-2007 12:08 PM

RE: Servos problems
 
I know how to reverse the direction but not the shift. Is that hard to do?

nevermind I see where it says PPR. That did not work either.


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