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ro347 07-28-2007 11:19 PM

Flaperon setup
 
Im about to maiden my first plane with dual aileron servos. How do I set them up to work together as normal ailerons then switch to flaperons. Using a Futaba 7CAP.

ro347 07-29-2007 01:32 AM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
IF all else fails read the instruction manual. Got it!

linkadrip 07-29-2007 03:24 AM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
the manual for that TX should tell you everything you need to know about flaperons and the other various mixing and other special functions it has in detail.

acarter 07-29-2007 06:52 AM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
yes definately read the instructions,

Cyclic Hardover 07-29-2007 07:06 AM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
Don't use to much at first. take it easy for a while and add to it.

acarter 07-29-2007 08:44 AM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
make a couple of slow passes with it on so you get a feel for the flaps, and also, what plane are you using them with, Good luck

bruce88123 07-29-2007 09:36 AM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
Remember that flaperons can help induce tip stalls more easily in many airplane types. Use with care.

ro347 07-29-2007 01:17 PM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
using them on hanger 9 PulseXT. Just a little experimentation.

dingo9882 08-01-2007 09:54 PM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
Are you trying to use the air-break function?

mesaflyer 08-01-2007 11:36 PM

RE: Flaperon setup
 


ORIGINAL: ro347

using them on hanger 9 PulseXT. Just a little experimentation.
Hey ro347. Remember me, mesaflyer, I had the prop question for the OS 46 on the Pulse? I set up the flaperons on my Pulse. Did a bunch of fly bys with them on and off. It's hard to tell the difference, but the plane will slow down a little. I landed once with them on and then never used them again, but that is just me. Be careful landing into a head wind with them on. I have the Futaba 6EXA. The manual should tell you how to set them up, mine does. That Pulse is just a blast to fly! Have fun.
Peter

ro347 08-02-2007 08:57 AM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
Hey Peter....I finally got my Pulse in the air. it is a VERY docile plane on low rates....High rates can be a bit crazy! Lands nice and slow. Over-all great quality build. I am a little disappointed in the speed of the plane. Im not looking to burn a hole in the sky or anything... using an OS 46 AX with 11X6 MAS prop. I dont feel that the plane is fast. My avistar was fast with the same engine using a 10X6. Maybe I should try using the 10X6 and see what happens. I intitially tried the 12.25x3.75 prop but the engine reacted weird to throttle control and couldnt figure out the proper tuning with that prop; maybe ill give it another shot down the road.

I did do the upgrade on the tail wheel with the Sullivan....Its a must do. Tracks solid on the runway. Only thing is I cant get tight turns when taxiing.....I am assuming its because I used the soft spring after damaging the hard spring. SO Ill have to write to sullivan and see if I can purchase a hard spring seperate.

I think ive given up on the idea of the flaperons. I guess it flies well without out but figured I could use them for something during aerobatics...but maybe not. I dont really know much about them other than they produce extra lift.

I think on low rates this plane is gentle enough to be a trainer - along with an instructor of course. Just my opinion.

Thanks Peter!

-Roland

bruce88123 08-02-2007 10:38 AM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
Some people do COUPLE the the flaps to the elevator to greatly tighten their loops and such. I would recommend being able to disable this for landing though.

CGRetired 08-02-2007 10:46 AM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
As mentioned in another thread, flaperons will hinder aileron effectiveness when you need it most, during take-offs and landings. If you have a three position flap switch, consider that the first click will drop your ailerons a certain percentage or number of degrees. That will reduce how much your ailerons travel by that much.

Then the next step will further drop the ailerons to a point where they are almost non-effective.

I would simply forget the use of flaperons until you are totally familiar with your plane's handling and your ability to use the flaperons as designed. And, that you can remember that if you DO use them in flight, to remember to remove the input before landing so you have total control over the ailerons for roll corrections during landings.

dingo9882 08-02-2007 12:35 PM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
I actually use this function in order to land my Pattern plane because I am able to spot land almost.

CGRetired 08-02-2007 05:40 PM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
Many of the pattern folks do. And, some shut the engine down prior to landing to get a better landing, a practice not recommended for a beginner.

But you have to admit that there is a bit of a difference in experience between a pattern flyer than a beginner with a trainer or second plane.

dingo9882 08-02-2007 07:21 PM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
Oh, I definitly agree with your statement, its just another idea that may help a little bit. You definitly have to take you time and actually learn how to fly and land without them first.

CGRetired 08-02-2007 08:06 PM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
Oddly, many of my best landings were dead-stick!! ;)

overbored77 08-02-2007 09:11 PM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
Dingo do you fly that Venus II in competition?

dingo9882 08-02-2007 10:10 PM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
Yep.. I actually have a competition tomorrow in Sayre Pennsylvania. It is one great flying plane. The air-break function actually helps me out a whole lot to get it on the ground quickly.

overbored77 08-02-2007 10:22 PM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
Good luck in Sayre Chris I am doing Conygham PA next week , and the Finale in Jackson.
I met you at Jackson in the spring, Sportsman class I flew a Tiger .60

CGRetired 08-03-2007 06:06 AM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
Hey Chris.. you got the Ice ready for the contest in Conygham PA next week?

Dick.

overbored77 08-03-2007 07:46 AM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
Just about ready.

CGRetired 08-03-2007 08:56 AM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
Ron said he was having some problems with his Vivat. I hope he got the problems cleared up. He is headed to Sayer today.

Dick.

overbored77 08-03-2007 08:52 PM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
CG. First ron fell down the garage stairs and the plane went down too, I think he damaged the front
of the airfame,and his knee. Then on Wed he blew out the baffle in one of those big dollar composite
pipes. I stopped over on thursday and he was getting ready to go get a loaner pipe and hook it up.
You know Ron he will be fine. Plus he will probably bring the Focus 1 as a backup.

CGRetired 08-04-2007 06:44 AM

RE: Flaperon setup
 
Oh crap... I didn't know that. Of all the luck.. the way he babies those planes. Well, we all do, but he is more anal than most people are with them...ha.. Hope he does OK this weekend.

Dick.


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