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Hello, I am a new rc plane pilot! I am currently flighing a P-51D. Since it came RTF I know nothing about ARF planes. My next plane will be the F4U Corsair. I have not purchased nor read a lot about this plane yet but I would like some input on engine and servos.
I currently have a JR Radio that came with my mustang.
SO...... Any ideas or direction will be appreciated.
Thank You
Rob

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Hi Rob and welcome. What Corsair are you looking at ?

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Can we also assume the P51 is the Hangar 9 PTS unit?

Do you plan to use the rx/servos/battery from this plane or obtain new ones or is that still unknown?

We really do need to know the manufacturer of the Corsair and which model it is if they make more than one.

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Sorry I was called away,
I plan on the Hangar 9 F4U Corsair 60 w/Retracts ARF.
Yes I do have the P-51 PTS unit. I plan on leaving it intact and purchasing new gear for the corsair.

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http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HAN2575
I'm sorry, there's no way I can be a party to you flying this as a second plane. It's waaaaay beyond your skill level. It would quickly be an expensive pile of debris. Corsairs are tricky flying planes in the first place and this one is extremely scale which will make it worse. Retracts also take excellent landing skills.

Good luck.

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I've got to agree with Bruce here. This is NOT the plane to be flying as your second plane. Warbirds take a lot of flying skills, and they only way to get those is a lot of airtime on planes. The P-51 PTS isn't really a warbird in this sense as it has been tamed down to try and become a trainer, but it's not going to give you the experience you need to fly the Corsair.

Ken

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I appreciate your concerns however my question remains unanswered. While I agree that I am new, my intensions are to buy a corsair as my next plane.
Besides I was told at the hobby store that ALL planes have an experation date! :o)

So? Engine and servos? I just dont want a hobby store owner to sell me something more than I need.

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I should also say that I own and have tried to wear out my Realflight G3.5 Sim.
I read my origan post and see that I did not mention this fact. I have flown 11 flights with only one not so good landing.

And did I say " currently flighing"??? hahaha.

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If you want to scratch the Corsair itch, try the Cox Warbird RTF. They sell for $89 with everything needed and you can fly it in a small area. While it wont give you the feel of a larger scale Corsair, it does look nice in the air. Plus if you wreck it, you can buy the complete kit for $20 and swap the parts. Good luck on what ever you decide.

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Hi,
Had a chance to see the H9 PTS P-51 this week. And its OK I guess if you need a trainer that noses over on every landing and flys faster than any trainer should. I think it would be a very fine 2nd plane though. It is not a plane most new guys can fix.
Good luck with the F4U. If there are any youngster around flying on a budget they will love the free hardware and salvageable pieces.
LOL;) I realize your gettin' a bit of a hard time here but these guys run into this at least daily. They do want you to do well in RC and they see so many quit when their first or second plane becomes a rather pricey pile of tooth pics. some people can pick this hobby up faster than others IF they put in a LOT of stick time (sims are nice but it is NOT the same) real time with planes in the air is what it will take.
Fly that trainer as much as possible WITH AN INSTRUCTOR, solo, and then decide what your next plane shoud be.

Be safe and have fun :D this is a greatt hobby.

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invest in a good supply of hefty bags. they will serve you well. seriously, if you manage to fly the corsair without incident, you will be one of the few that have without paying the dues first. don't mean to bring ya down, but if you have $$$ you can keep trying till you get it i guess.

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i love these "corsair as a second plane" threads. they always get a bunch of heated answers. of course all for the benefit of the beginner. to reiterate:

NO NO NO

simple. the corsair will be a good plane after you've mastered a real warbird like a P-51 or a P-40 or a P-57. corsairs are beautiful planes but they are best kept for when you are a much better flyer. if you really want a corsair as a second plane, get a seven boxes of toothpicks instead, because that's what it'll be after your first flight. ;)

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There's nobody stopping you buying a Corsair for your next plane ;)

All planes do have an expiry date but those of us with years of experience prefer to measure out models lifespans in years rather than seconds ;)

Unless the hobby shop owner sells you some dustbin bags too he wont have sold you everything you need ;)


I really hate to dampen peoples' enthusiasm but sooner or later you'll either realise that you know much less than you think you do, or you'll just quit, blame the hobby and move on to something else you'll never master.

So you've had 11 flights, and one not-so-good landing? So your track record on the Mustang PTS is to have 10 successful landings out of 11... Let's assume for a moment that you are as good as you think you are and apply your track record to the Corsair - so you'll have up to 100 minutes of flying, give-or-take, before, statisically you rip the retracts out.

Not a problem for most of us with years of modelling behind our belts, although chances are it wouldn't happen to us so frequently anyway.

You WILL crash the Corsair, either soon or extremely soon after getting it. From the sounds of it you have precisely zilch experience or knowledge of how the models actually work since you don't even know what basic equipment you need - so you have no chance of a) assembling a practical and reliable model or b) repairing it to a good standard after your first crash - if there's anything worth repairing.


Trust me, everyone here genuinely wants you to do well and stick at this great hobby - but we all know that you're getting ahead of yourself far too quickly.

If you're still convinced that hundreds of years of combined experience of building and flying these r/c models counts for nothing, then you should abandon this Beginners thread and go do your homework in the other sections of the forum. Hangar 9 ARFs are as common as muck - so there's plenty info around on them. If you genuinely need people to hand you a shopping list of accessories on a silver platter then you really need to be questioning your choice yourself ;)

Your Corsair will last long enough for you to enjoy it once you have some modelling experience behind you. We've all been beginers at some point, and I'm sure we all wanted to get to the impressive models straight away - but it's the experienced modellers' duty to give a reality check to us all when we begin to ensure that we learn to walk before we try to run...

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I just maiden a PTS P-51 last weekend. It is an ARF with a OS .46AX and a 11x6 prop. No training gear. As clean as the airframe will get. It`s O.K for what it is , but a few more flights and it will be a hanger Qween. Just not what I hoped it would be.
I have 2 TopFlight Corsairs. Flew one twice and decided to put it up till spring. Thought the P-51 would help get me ready for the real deal, But no, far from it. I`m going back to the 4*, Twist and SkyBolt. These plane still have a lot to teach me yet, and I`ll save the Warbirds till next year.

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Now that's something to relate to!

How did you find the Corsairs Insanemoondoggie? Clearly you haven't crashed it but did you happen to find that, although you landed it successfully, you were a step behind the plane the whole time it was flying?

That's how I felt personally whenever I took a step too far when I was younger. It was just unpleasant and stressful. Eventually you either realise that this model is ever right on the limits of your ability and that sooner or later it'll get you, or you crash before you realise it :D

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Sorry elric249 - Looks like nobody wants to help you destroy a good airplane. BTW - If you had enough experience to fly the plane you would have enough experience to know what to put into it. IMO

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Believe it or not, Corn is why I decided to wait. Our field is really tight with being surrounded by corn. No room for dead sticks or normal landings . Spent most of the air time , doing approaches . Did them up high and if I slowed to where I could land it would stall and right now. Warbirds are not forgiving, that's why they have guns ,lol.
The most I remember about the 2 short flights, is being happy they were over and the plane was coming home in one piece and the sick feeling in my stomach was going away. The Corsairs a lot more plane than I should be flying right now. But next spring ,look out.

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Haha I feel like that every single time I fly a new model on it's maiden :D:D

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Well you are being given great "ideas or direction".

The voice of experience is speaking but you have not ( Yet ) elected to listen.

The Corsair is a nice plane, prone to snap like crazy as it was DESIGNED to do so to improve snap turns during combat.

One person here loves to humerously reply to posts such as yours by telling them to go buy the plane, the promptly run over it with a car or truck, as it will last longer this way and cause less expense and grief. Fairly accurate IMHO.

Consider heeding the advice. Buy the Corsair and start working on it, but don't fly it until you've had a lot of stick time with acrobatic and other more docile warbirds.

Even an Extra 300 will get you better prepared for the Corsair's tendancies..

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WOW such good advice! all i asked for was a suggested engine and gear. Again I appreciate you corncern for my flight ability. Infact I was told not to invest "that much money" in the mustang. I would love to have enough "experience" to "KNOW" what I need for this new plane. If no one wants to suggest the proper engine size for the corsair that is ok as well. I will rely on the hobby dealer and hope they do the right thing.
Thanks Again
Rob

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Maybe the warbird forum would be a good place to post your question. Obviously you
aren't a beginner and this is the beginners forum.

But if you really want a good engine and servo package for the H9 corsair a Saito 1.25 or YS 1.20 with
JR 821 digitals on all surfaces would be a nice setup. Pricey for a plane that has a
90% chance of going in on it's first flight. But if it survives and you learn how to fly
it will have a good package.

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Saito 1.00 14x8 master airscrew

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Heck yeah, whip out that plastic and they'll sell you whatever they can. Anyone that would advise you to buy that plane and tell you "that ALL planes have an experation date!" with a smile will have no problem ripping you off for another $700+ bucks and laugh at you when you leave. Get yourself an aerodynamic flying suit while you're at it. Inside joke for a few of us.

Again good luck, you'll really need it. But heck, you know more than those of us that have been doing this for 30+ years don't you?[:'(]

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No I do not know more. I will most certainly take this advice into consideration. I never once said that I was going to buy, build and attempt to fly the plane this weekend. All I ask for was a engine and gear for this plane. I do intend on flying my mustang a lot more before I attempt a new plane.

"Please resist the urge to curse, flame, degrade, insult or embarrass someone in your post."

Some of you should read this before you post on a thread where people asking for help.

Thank You Chris for your help!

I will continue to gain experience and perhaps find a place to get help instead of arrogant bantering about how much better everyone is than I am.

You were all new at one time.

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You're worried about getting advice on engine and servos from a hobby shop willing to sell you a plane you're not ready to fly. Does the Hobby Shop owner have kids in college?

Brad