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Want 2 buy trainer, but don't know which one or what field equip. to buy:eek:. Any sugestions?

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There is a great thread in the beginners forum. Here is a link:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4537845/tm.htm

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Do you plan on building a "kit",buying an "arf",or an "rtf"? And do you have someone to train you using a cord(your gonna need this if your new)?

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Building a kit instead of gluing a few pieces to get an ARF together will give teach you much more and you will have a good idea of how to do repairs on a plane when you need to. Up here we have 2 seasons, a long building season and a short flying season. If its the same there, I would look at an Sig LT40 kit for your building season also known as Winter!!:D

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Read through RCKen's trainer list - lots of good planes on there. An RTF is a good route as it gets you the complete airframe/engine/radio package in one shot, but others like to get the ARF and add their own radio and engine. If you get an ARF or RTF you'll be flying sooner and can start building an intermediate trainer while learning to fly, then transplant you engine and radio from the trainer into the intermediate trainer.

First you have to decide what route to go, then you'll get a flood of more specific answers.

Hogflyer

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hello where i get help to do a space shuttle electric

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Uh......are you looking at a Space Shuttle for a trainer? I've seen a powered Space Shuttle built from the Luther Hux design fly published in Model Aviation years back, and it was a huge drag bucket. The glide ratio was quite prototypical for the actual craft - like a brick. It went dead stick once and had the glide ratio of a helicopter. Unless you have a lot of experience with high performance scale models, don't even think about one for quite a while. Look through RCKen's list of good trainers. Learn to fly then think about the scale stuff.

Hogflyer

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Check out the SkyFly. It's a great first plane. Cheap, simple, and tough.

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I' not planning on getting a space shuttle trainer! That's ridiculous! I think that I'll get a Hobbico NexStar RTF. Any comments?
Thanks for the inf o, Though!:D

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Personally if you want to go RTF,I'd recommend a Tower Trainer .40 RTF over the Nexstar for $130 less. A guy at my flying field is using a Nexstar. Not sure why,I'm just not crazy about it. Might be its wierd shape,not sure. Either one will be a good plane for you. And they both have comparable engines and radios. I think the Nexstar will be a bolt on wing style,while the tower is a rubber band style. Not sure which I would recommend. My trainer used rubber bands and I got sick of them quick,but may have come in handy on a crash or two. The Nexstar I believe also comes with a decent flight sim while the tower does not. I just practiced with the free internet FMS program which served the purpose. If you do go with the Nexstar,I dont know if I'd want that little gizmo that is supposed to keep the plane level thing,unless you arent going to be on a cord. Also make sure your carb fuel line is hooked up right to and inside the tank,that guy at my fields was not hooked up right. His motor kept dying because the intake line was hooked up to the pressure line. Not sure if it came like this(he claims) or it was him messing with it(my thoughts),lol. Good Luck!!!

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My vote is the Hangar 9 Arrow 40 RTF Trainer. It is what I learned on and on low rates it is very slow and easy to fly. Turn up the rates and it gets fun to fly. It will keep your attention longer than the typical flat bottom wing trainer. Just my 2 cents

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I understand the desire to get out there and start flying. It can be quite strong at times but, my two cents, would be to get a good flight simulator. They are about the cost of a plane but that reset button will save you the cost of several planes as you are just starting out. Plus, you can use it to try new things as you grow into flying and get more proficient. And they help scratch that itch to fly during those times when it's too dark, wet or cold to get out there. My .02, I'll give change back to anyone who sends me a self-addressed, stamped envelope with their receipt. :D

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A simulator would be a great idea, not only does it help you in learning to fly, but once you learn to fly it can help you master some of those hard manouvers. but as far as planes, if it were me i would get an arf, because the flying season is soon ending, and it is likely you will not get to fly untill next year if you get a kit (depending on your schedule). Make sure you don't settle, because you first plane is most likely going to be around for a long time :D

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Do a search on here for "Nexstar" and read alot of the threads. They will give you some "insight" into the Nexstar. My wife bought me the RTF for Easter and I taught myself how to fly. I had a real steep learning curve without an instructor. I didn't crash, but had a couple hard landings, added a few grey hairs, and probably sweated off a few pounds:D. I am one who really likes the plane as a "learning platform". I am now using it to teach my 11 year old son. Be patient and have fun.

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I vote for the Sig Senior Kadet. It was much easier and more fun to fly than the Nexstar. IMHO

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Forget the NeX, you pay for a lot of extras that are not very helpful. The Sig Senior Kadet fuselage is made of criss crossing sticks that are light weight but not as sturdy as most other trainers that have plywood sides. I would look at the Tower trainer, Midwest Malibu, Sig Lt4o or the H9 trainer as better choices.[8D]

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The Hobistar 60 RTF gets my vote. With the semi symetrical wing with very little dihedral it's somthing to grow with. A freind got one last week and to his ( and my surprise ) he got a Futaba 6 ch computer radio. The ad said 6 ch analog. I don't know whether Tower goofed or if that's what they are sending with it since the 2.4 is getting so popular. I also think that LA 65 don't get all the credit it's due. At $359 after the $20 off thats a bargin.

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The 65LA spins a prop very well for its engine class!:D

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RC Ken spent an awful lot of time getting the list together in his post which is the second one in the Beginners Forum.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4537845/tm.htm

Take a look through this listing. He even provided a link to each aircraft listed. Each and every one is a great choice. I've flown at least four of the planes in that list and trained on two of them and have trained others on two of them. They are all worthy of consideration, and any one of them that you may choose will make a good choice.

PS. Many of the OS LA engines are being discontinued or have been discontinued.

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Only the "Blue" LA's are being discontinued, the natural finishes, in all sizes are available.....

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Thanks guys! Now, what's better: RTF (Hobbico Nexstar) or ARF (SIG Seinor)?:eek:

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Ok. Now, how about field equipment and bench equipment?

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I have to agree with Fastsky. Although the Kadet Senior flies like a trainer, a hard landing will do considerably more damage because of the delicate frame. An actual cartwheeling during takeoff can result in a rekitting, from what info I have received, so that makes the Kadet Senior considerably less forgiving of mishaps than an actual trainer with plywood sides. I spoke with some folks at a couple clubs back when I was considering one, and they all told me that it's more a utility plane than a beginner's trainer because it has such good lifting capacity. Seniors fly a lot like Telemasters. Some of the more experienced pilots went further to say that it's best as a third plane, after learning how to fly the first low-wing such as a Tiger 2 or 4-Star because "once you crash one of these, be sure to bring a large plastic bag because you're done and you might as well buy a new plane".

My advice would be to get a Nexstar if you like its looks and are willing to pay for the extras. You'll get more of your money's worth from a Hangar 9 Alpha, Hobbico Superstar, or Sig Kadet LT-40. Among all the trainers, I think the Goldberg Eagle 2 ARF is the best looking and offers very good durability, since it has actual windows instead of stickers that can peal. If you are a kit builder, then the Eagle is also among the easiest to build, making success more certain. Goldberg even includes some contour sanders, jigs, and other tools in their beginner kits! I wish you the best of luck.

NorfolkSouthern

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um, either a "chicken stick" (can be made with a 1/2" dowel about 6-8" long, wraped with electrical tape, the tape protects the prop from the hard dowel), or an electric starter, glow heater, glow plugs, extra props, fuel pump (manual or electric), fuel, AMA membership, good buddy to teach you to fly... that sort of stuff;)

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I totally disagree with NorfolkSouthern. I own a Nexstar trainer and even drove over 500 miles to meet with an instructor for flight training who would be totally devoted to me and my need to learn how to fly. I had the Nexstar and he had the Sig Senior. The Sig was way more stable and forgiving for beginners (and it was the best trainer he had ever used in his 20+ years of flight training). It also reacts faster which is a plus in my opinoin. The Nexstar was way more difficult to fly and has some bad habits like wanting to take off toward the right all the time. The covering also peals off after a few flights.

Anyone that says the Nexstar is better than the Senior has never flown BOTH planes as a brand new never soloed pilot. IMHO

I since have soloed with the Sig senior and wrecked my Nexstar right after the solo with the Senior. I then rebuilt the Nexstar and had several sucessful flights with it and wrecked it again.

I have now purchased and am building a Sig Senior. If I could do it all over again, I would have never even looked at the Nexstar as a serious trainer plane to begin with.

P.S. The sig and its landing gear handle hard landings without bending the landing gear, unlike my Nexstar.