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Electrolight 10-01-2007 05:40 PM

Gas 2 Glow
 
If a plane calls for a .46 Gas engine is it bad to put a .46 glow engine. Whats the difference?

Thanks
Electrolight

Flying freak 10-01-2007 05:44 PM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 
a .46 gas engine is basically a mad mfg using the wrong term i dont even know of a .46 gas engine

just go with the glow

B.L.E. 10-01-2007 06:28 PM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 
They most certainly meant glow when they said gas. You don't start using gasoline until the engines get to about 1.2 cubic inches and larger. In this case gas means fuel powered or not electric.

Fastsky 10-01-2007 06:34 PM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 
The new kid on the block companies just getting into selling RC airplanes refer to the glow engines as gas engines. They don't understand what they are talking about so I would certainly caution about buying anything from them.[8D]

horace315 10-01-2007 06:43 PM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 
some electric airplane and car people call glo engines either gas or nitro. they do make a 46cc gas engine. if you saw one next to a .46 glo engine you would definitely know the difference.

overbored77 10-01-2007 06:46 PM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 
Actually the DA50,100, 150 EVO 35, 45, Zenoah 23, 36, 62, are all gas engines measured in cubic centimeters
not cubic inches. this can become confusing but you have to read the specs and see if it says .46 or 46cc
if it says 46cc then a .46 wouldn't even pull it across the ground. What plane are you looking at?

RCKen 10-01-2007 06:53 PM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 
What everybody said above is 100% on the money. As a referrence for the future, the smallest gasoline engine in major production these days is the Zenoah G20. It's a gas engine that is designed for 60 sized planes.

Ken

bruce88123 10-01-2007 07:43 PM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 
If you can provide a link or reference to the plane in question we could verify what they really meant.

acarter 10-01-2007 07:59 PM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 
if there is a . in front of the number then it is most likely cubic inches (glow)

Electrolight 10-02-2007 10:57 AM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 
Here is the website. From what I can understand it requires a "gasoline engine... .40-.63" but it also says "nitro gas powered". I'm a bit confused.

[link=http://www.nitroplanes.com/arfce182arfs.html]http://www.nitroplanes.com/arfce182arfs.html[/link]

Thanks
Electrolight

bruce88123 10-02-2007 11:46 AM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 
You have to forgive them. English isn't their first language as they say. This plane requires standard hobby type Nitro fuel and NOT gasoline like goes into an automobile. You can use either a 2 stroke or a 4 stroke engine as they say where they say 2c or 4c meaning 2 cycle or 4 cycle.

This means that something like and OS .46AX would be right at home on this plane. Sizes recommended BY THEM are .40 2 stroke up thru .63 4 stroke.

Fastsky 10-02-2007 04:40 PM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 
You can in most cases use the weight of a plane to glue you a clue. If the plane is less than 12 lbs. then you can pretty much be assured that it will fly with a glow powered engine. Anything over 12 lbs. will be more cost effective to go with a gasoline powered engine. There are bigger glow powered engines but they can go through 14 plus oz. of fuel in one 10 minute flight. At around $25.00/gallon for glow fuel, it actually makes gasoline look like a cheap alternative!! [X(]

bruce88123 10-02-2007 04:56 PM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 
"At around $25.00/gallon for glow fuel"? What are you buying? 90% nitro??? I'm paying $14.50 USD for 15%.

Missileman 10-02-2007 05:16 PM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 
That plane is the same size as my Great Planes Cessna 182. I have a Magnum .52 four stroke in it, great combo.
Bruce, I believe Fatsky is refering to Canadian prices, I recently paid $17.99 for a gallon of 15% Omega at a local store in US dollars. (I need to buy 2 cases next year when our club order goes in)

bruce88123 10-02-2007 07:53 PM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 


ORIGINAL: Missileman

That plane is the same size as my Great Planes Cessna 182. I have a Magnum .52 four stroke in it, great combo.
Bruce, I believe Fatsky is refering to Canadian prices, I recently paid $17.99 for a gallon of 15% Omega at a local store in US dollars. (I need to buy 2 cases next year when our club order goes in)
As of todays market $25 Canadian = $25.0376 USD

Fastsky 10-02-2007 09:07 PM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 
Here is a copy/paste from one of our popular local hobby shops. "10% SPORT 18% OIL FUEL 22.95 Power Master" The hobby shop blames the cost on the fact that the fuel is made in the US. So then you have to add shipping costs to bring it up here. Then you have to add, government shaft tax (called GST) and of course customs fees. That all pretty much doubles the price of the gallon of fuel. Lucky us eh?!?[&o]

overbored77 10-02-2007 09:19 PM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 
I buy S&W fuel from a local maker. $9 a gallon for 15% I usually buy a case or two at a time.

bruce88123 10-02-2007 09:37 PM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 


ORIGINAL: overbored77

I buy S&W fuel from a local maker. $9 a gallon for 15% I usually buy a case or two at a time.
Smith & Wesson makes fuel?[sm=tongue_smile.gif]

bruce88123 10-03-2007 08:19 AM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 


ORIGINAL: Fastsky

Here is a copy/paste from one of our popular local hobby shops. "10% SPORT 18% OIL FUEL 22.95 Power Master" The hobby shop blames the cost on the fact that the fuel is made in the US. So then you have to add shipping costs to bring it up here. Then you have to add, government shaft tax (called GST) and of course customs fees. That all pretty much doubles the price of the gallon of fuel. Lucky us eh?!?[&o]
I'm not denying that you have to pay that. It's just kind of a WOW!! factor.

carrellh 10-03-2007 10:05 AM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 

ORIGINAL: bruce88123
Smith & Wesson makes fuel?[sm=tongue_smile.gif]
Bruce, I know you already know this, but for those who do not:
http://www.s-whobby.com/index.html

bruce88123 10-03-2007 10:23 AM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 


ORIGINAL: carrellh


ORIGINAL: bruce88123
Smith & Wesson makes fuel?[sm=tongue_smile.gif]
Bruce, I know you already know this, but for those who do not:
http://www.s-whobby.com/index.html
Actually, I hadn't heard of them before.

Electrolight 10-03-2007 10:40 AM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 
Thanks for all the info!

Electrolight

PS: would it be a bad Idea to order from them? Or will somthing go wrong?

carrellh 10-03-2007 11:32 AM

RE: Gas 2 Glow
 

ORIGINAL: Electrolight

Thanks for all the info!

Electrolight

PS: would it be a bad Idea to order from them? Or will somthing go wrong?
You are posting in the 'Beginner' forum. I have no idea what your flying experience is. One thing I noticed in the description of the Cessna is: "It is designed for intermediate or advanced modeler."

If you search the ARF forum you'll see that many people really like NitroModels and that many others think they are terrible.

They do have a support forum on RCU:
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/forumid_456/tt.htm

A common theme seems to be: Do not bother trying to call or email them for customer service.

If you have issues or questions, go to their forum and send a PM (Private Message) to 'nitrostaff1' and you're likely to get the help you need.

If you do not have the experience of assembling multiple ARFs you may find the instructions are lacking a lot of details. Some of the instruction sheets are reportedly just poor copies of copies that are dark and blurry.

Read some their product descriptions:
Cessna: nitro gas powered
P47 Thunderbolt: like the legendary fighter jet from World War 2. (the P47 is NOT a jet)

If their instruction sheets are done by the same people who write the descriptions they could be confusing.


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