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flyerdarren 04-23-2003 08:50 PM

suitable first plane?
 
I've ordered a TT cloud dancer as my first plane, however after reading most of the posts on this topic, I'm starting to second guess. I'm thinking of shelving the CD for a while and going with a Tower trainer .60 or something similar. Any input is welcome.

Thanx,

FLYBOY 04-23-2003 09:17 PM

suitable first plane?
 
I think that would be a good choice. The tower trainer would be better.

Brian Soltis 04-23-2003 09:20 PM

suitable first plane?
 
It seems to be pretty common for people to think that they can pick a plane and fly it. I mean, you CAN, but it will be destroyed before you ever learn to fly correctly. Flying is A LOT harder than many might think.

I've heard good things about the Tower trainers though I have never flown one. I learned on a PT-40 and it is a great plane. (no pun intended)

You may even consider the Debonair . It would be very durable and you could build it yourself cheap.

flyerdarren 04-23-2003 09:28 PM

suitable first plane?
 
Thanks for the repies, being in the militaary, I have pretty limited down time, soo I'm kinda looking for an ARF or RTF. I hope that someday I have time to get into kits.

im_a_rcav8r 04-23-2003 11:37 PM

suitable first plane?
 
Tower is ok for your trainer, however you may be able to get a better price at your local hobby shop. I know my local shop sells a super star 40 ARF for just $239.00. Thats the radio, engine, and plane. He also gives you fuel and 30 min glue with your new plane. Tower can not touch that! Now I know thats a great deal and not every hobby shop will have that good of a price but it is worth a look...

AlStack 04-24-2003 12:18 AM

suitable first plane?
 
I have the Tower .60 Trainer and it is a great airplane. It is very easy to fly and the TT .60 engine is rated as one of the strongest by Model Airplane News. With the .60 you can put it into your next kit or do what I did, add floats and make a nice float plane.

There is a pic of my trainer in my gallery.

AL

TomM 04-24-2003 01:32 AM

suitable first plane?
 
So far I vote for the Tower 60. It just came today and I started some build notes.

My background:
I started with stick and tissue free flight and display models when I was in grade school.
I’ve built maybe 15-16 kits, Control line and RC, and a few scratchbuilts from plans. I’m 47 and presently fly gliders, planes and helis. I’m a mediocre flier but a great builder. I’ve also done a couple 1/8th scale mahogany boats, and love woodworking in general. I bought this ARF (my first!) for three purposes. First to get some stick time and get over my fear of crashing my own handiwork. No emotional attachment here. No sanding through the night and worrying about my “perfect” paint job. Second- after I see how good this flys, (for a while-lol) I’ll take the floats from my Cub and try some lake flying with this one first. Third, I need someone to fly a tow-plane for my gliders.
I’m doing this plane “by the directions” as much as I can in good conscience. If I see something lacking, I’ll note the problem/remedy so that first time assemblers won’t end up with a weak structure. Then again, maybe I just over engineer everything and will only end up adding weight. Oh well.



Out of the box, I’m impressed with the covering. Don’t know if it’s Monokote or what, but pretty good for a $99 ARF. Some wrinkles in the seam near the aileron gap, but that’s it. The aileron movement was a little tough.- the control arms coming through the wing sheeting seemed to bind. Nothing that a good manual workout by flexing back and forth (denting the balsa sheeting) didn’t solve.

My first inspection requires that I fillet all the fuselage formers I can reach (which would be F1 to F5 ) with some 30-minute epoxy. I can see light through some of the gaps against the bottom planking. A nice long 3/16th “ balsa stick will get the epoxy into the back of the firewall from the wing opening. If nothing else, I’d urge people to get some extra epoxy into that firewall joint.

Fillet some epoxy around the landing gear blocks/fuselage sides and bottom. What glue around there is scarce, and I don’t know if it’s epoxy or hot glue. It’s nice to see #6 blind nuts installed on the firewall for the engine mounts. I was expecting to see wood screws for this.

The wing went together as per instructions. The dihedral brace is laminated from 3 pieces of quality plywood- no “liteply”. I was thinking of putting some fiberglass on the bottom joint, but I’ll skip it for now. (maybe I’ll regret it, we’ll see) The stab went together per the instructions too. IMO, no extra strength/weight is needed here. Do the horizontal first and let it completely cure. That way you can use it to brace the vertical with masking tape to keep it 90 degrees while it cures.

The engine “compartment” is painted flat black, and there’s some raw balsa grain showing on the doublers. I’m going to give this area a brush coat of 90 minute laminating epoxy to make sure it’s fuel proof.

My first real complaint for now is that the included fuel tank plumbing is made of 1/8th” soft aluminum tubing. It deforms and kinks a lot easier than soft brass, and you only have “one good bend”. Try and rebend that stuff and it kinks shut. It’s good they give you 3 pieces and you only need two. A real highpoint is the plastic (PTFE I think, like the bottom plastic on a coke bottle) wing and tail tips. Looks like they’ll take a good scraping.

Going to let all the epoxy cure tonight. Tomorrow I’ll be doing the servo and control linkage, and hopefully the OS .65 LA will arrive soon. So far, about 2 hours of work, 2 hours of wait time and maybe 2 ounces of epoxy I’m looking at a complete covered airframe!


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