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Ok I have 5 planes 3 nitro 2 electric I want out of the nitros for now I have yet to get airborn for more than 10 seconds, getting exspensive could someone give me links to everything I need to put togather a 40 size brushless plane that is some what easy to fly, I have all the radio gear servos, I just need a plane motor speed controll mount battery charger, want to go lipo,

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I don't see how going electric is going to make the plane any eaiser to fly. I would suggest getting an instructor and learinging how to fly. Any of the clubs would be happy to teach you. You would need to join the club most likely, at least at our club you need to be a member for insurance purposes.

As for 40 size trainers, any of them are OK and any of them can be converted to electric. Some come in ARF form electric ready. Sig, has a couple good trainers. There are quite a few others also. Take a look at the list of recomend trainers in the beginers fourm.

Don

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Reading between the lines, is one to infer that the problem you are having is that at the end of these flights you are crashing the plane? Do you have an instructor? If not, that will be a much cheaper option, nearly all clubs offer instruction for free, and much more likely to lead to success than switching from nitro to electric.

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Yea I was going to say the same thing, go to a club and learn to fly. That is much less expensive than buying another plane.
A 40 size electric is just as expensive, if not more, than a 40 size glow and will not be any easier to fly.

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I agree too. My club is less than $20 if you are under 18, or else $36. There are lots of trainers, and they all have buddy boxes and the necessary cables, as well as the willingness to get you in the air.

Lipos are really expensive ($50-100 ea). I was just at the field with a guy flying electric, and he was through 3 lipos in a half-hour; that's $150 in batteries, and $150 in a charger, for a grand total of $300 to fly for a half-hour. a $15 gallon of fuel will last something like 12 flights/tanks. 20 gallons of fuel for the same price as 3 batteries and charger, and by the time you rip through 20 gals of fuel, you'd probably need to buy a new lipo!

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Agree! Go to a club!:D

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well I can fly on the simulator really good and I can fly the super cub well, I even upgraded the electrics and put alirons on it, fun to fly. I have a dura plane with a .56 I beleive and have had it in the air and crashed it due to not thinking fast and pulled right on the alirons when I should have pulled left and up as the plane was banking right and slightly down as it was comeing towards me, my fault broke the heck out of it. I aslo have a tower voyenger with a l.a. .40 and a great planes P-51 same engin, I am scared to fly them because I seen what happened to the dura plane . I have crashed the super cup um like 20 times befor I got the Simulator and all I had to replace was the prop. This is why I want to go electric I have 10 acres I can fly on and there are a few trees so kinda tight for a glow plane and my skill level. I want to be able to take a plane off the shelf go fly for a few minutes and put it up, it is more of a process and messy with the glow engins. and from what I have seen I can crash an electric plane and put it right back up in the air. Maybe lipo is not the way to go for me. I can fly my super cup for 15 minutes on a charged battery, ($10 battery) and it only takes 10 min to charge so with a couple batteries I can fly all day.

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If you crashed the Duraplane, you probably have an engine that still runs, a receiver and servos that still work, a good NiCad battery, and trashed out airframe which can be replaced with a $70.00 Tower Trainer ARF. If you get a 40 sized electric like the Hobbico Superstar EP and crash it, you'll more than likely also trash out an $80.00 motor, might damage the $70.00 ESC, and maybe destroy your $150.00 worth of LiPo batteries (if that's what you're using). So, you could be out $200.00 at least, in addition to having to repair the airframe its self, as long as the LiPos didn't catch fire. Stick with your Cub for a while, and then find an instructor before taking a chance on that big 40-sized electric investment.

NorfolkSouthern

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imho sims are no good at all,i can 3d a heli on a sim but can't even get a real heli off the ground!,lots of stick time with a good instructor is what's needed.

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an instructor is not an option, sorry don't have time to go to the feild, I just fly at home, I will get it eventually plus know said I cant fly I fly the electric planes, had one crash with a gas plane , I just don't have the time to break them up and fix them, that is why I want to go electric, I personly don't think anyone needs an instructor if they do the right research and steps to learning how to fly

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Stick with the slow electrics like your cub keep them small, a trainer or any .40 sized plane that hits at speed WILL get a lot of damage no matter what your using to power it gas/glow/electric/turbine/turbo prop all going to damage the heck out of the air frame.

Steven

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Most .40 size electrics planes are either converted from nitro or built lighter and more fragile
than a nitro plane. With that size plane and type of build a crash is a crash nitro or electric.

I think you should stick with small foam planes that are cheap and easily replaced or rebuilt.
and get as much sim time as you can get. Regardless of what others say the sim is an excellent
tool that will help you with the "control reversal" and build muscle memory. Just remember that
if you use a Sim like a video game it won't do anything for you. You should use the virtual flight
instructors if the sim has them, then come up with goals.

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You might want to add to you list: "and have the money for a few replacement planes also."

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Is it just speed that makes a glow plane harder to fly? And when do I know when I am ready to go from sim to the real thing. THis is where I am at. I started on the sim could not keep in the air very long, after sevral hours could fly plane around but not really make it go where I wanted it to. Now I can take off, fly where I want to fly, loops inverted flying and I can land pretty much everytime, can even fly the jets. So is it night and day from the sim to going out and flying, So if I stick with glow engin planes could I go out with the p-51 and fly I know what all the controls do, I can start and tune my plane, read trew the entire eclipse 7 maual and set everything from sub trims to end points to dual rates and I set a mix to apply a little rudder with the alirons. The P-51 is a .40 size plane sould I stick with the os L.A. 40 or I have a .58 wich is in it now, will the bigger engin help with flight.

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R/C BARNSTORMERS*
14306 W 123RD ST
OLATHE KS 66062-6026
913.782.2253

rcbarnstormers.org

This is a club that is in Olathe, which I believe is not too far from you. They have training every Tuesday; this means someone will connect to your radio, take off and land for you, then flip a switch and let you fly. If you screw up, they flip a switch, take over and fix your mistake, and let you fly again. When your comfortable, then you can take off and land, and eventually not use the 'buddy box'. This is how you learn to fly rc airplanes, the right way.

http://www.modelaircraft.org/clubsearch.aspx

here you can enter a zip code to find a club, maybe there's one closer.

If you're having a tough time, don't get the P51; you should get a 'high wing trainer'. These are better for learning because, since the weight of the plane is below the wings, they have 'self righting characteristics' - they want fly right-side up, as the weight of the plane wants to hang below the wings.

Simulators are great for understanding the orientation of the plane; when the plane is flying away from you, it's easy to bank right/left, etc. When the plane is coming at you, things are a little different; this is where Simulators are great. There is no substitution for the real thing.

Glow planes give you more flying time, and can be set up to fly slowly, depending on the plane, the motor, the prop, etc.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXCAS1&P=0

This is a link to a nice, big trainer that will use the .58 you already have, is relatively inexpensive (for planes this size - bigger planes are easier to see in the sky), and easy to fly.

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Ya thats how I got in to the planes, an instructor that is with thr RC barn stormers that fly out at Hills dale lake traded me a bunch of planes for some wheels. Well he was a complete liar, gave me a bunch of crap, well most was. anyways I think I will steer clear of those guys. I have been into nitro truggies for years and would never give a newbe bad advise or pawn my junk off on them, that will ruin people for the hobby, lucky for me I have some exsperience in RC so I will pull threw.

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There are lots of other clubs in KS, I wouldn't let one bad experience stop you from doing things the right way. Driving a truggie's nothing like flying a plane. Sorry that happened though.

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Maybe it's a personel goal to teach my self. I have tought my self how to do everything. I could not fly the electric when I started and now I can, I am learning every day, I just read you should put a lock nut on the props, why would that guy not tell me this, that could really mess someone up if the prop came off, and the super cub had a prop off a sky piolet. way to small, thats why I was haveing trouble at first. I wanted to go all electric cause of durability, I have sence found out that big electrics break just as easy, so I have came to the conclusion I will keep trying with the dura plane, and .58 engin then I will move on to the tower voyenger. will see.

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Ok. Good luck!

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Hi JChrisjohn ,

I've been involved in this sport for almost 10 years but since it's been over 4 years since I flew, I consider myself a beginner.
Allow me to pass along one bit of wisdom my instructor gave to me; "There are only 2 types of RC pilots. Those that have crashed and those that are going to crash." It's part of the hobby. If crashing really bothers you, you may want to consider another pasttime. Best thing is to say goodbye to that pretty bird just prior to the maiden flight.
I know what you mean about the distances involved to get to a club. My club is almost 50 miles away and with today's fuel prices that can start to run into money. If you can arrange it, a few flights with an instructor you are comfortable with can really help get you over that initial learning curve. Don't let one negative experience overcome the fact that most of the people involved in RC airplanes are truly some of the finest and more than willing to help a beginner learn the basics.
If you are determined to teach yourself, I think the simulators can really help.

Best of luck

Rufcut

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Hope you got a deep pocket , can get exspensive learning own your own

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I just joined a club last month-I went online to see if there was a local club and found their website. They have meetings the first Wednesday of every month, so I went to their meeting. I found a bunch of good guys who are all into RC planes, and who are really willing to help me get flying on my own. Once I'm comfortable flying solo, there are races and dogfights at my club, people to learn from, and people to help get good deals on fuel (if everyone buys from the same place, you can get quantity discounts...$12/gallon!). This is an expensive (and frustrating) hobby to learn alone. Using a trainer will almost guarantee a few good flights without crashing, so you can learn how the plane responds to different levels of input, and I will learn how to get the right elevation so that if you make a mistake, there will be room for corrections before you hit the ground.

I did an RC plane club search and found hundreds in your state; I really think it's worth it (glow or electric).

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I am a beginner myself. I have flown the .46 NexStar Select glow plane. Comes with a simulator and its a great plane. (RTF) But regardless of what you got an instructor will do you far better, planes can only help a little

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Sorry to hear that.

What did he sell you and for how much?

Why is it crap?

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If you are determined to teach yourself then do as advised with the sim. Next I would recommend a Easy Star if you want to try electrics. It is a very tough plane and will teach you the basics. Sooner or later though you should really consider some club help.