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Osirisf16 05-20-2008 03:13 PM

Combo Find
 
Hey guys, i'm trying to make a combo for a 3D airplane with good stuff on it and i have some questions. First, i think i will go for the Futaba 7C radio since it's enough for me to start. However, i have seen on a futaba 3PK some parameters about the signal speed response for the servos. The HRS, the PCM and the PPM. They told me that the PPM is for digital and analog servos, BUT the HRS is only for the digital servos and if i put an analog servo with that parameter on, then the analog servo will burn. Does the 7C has these parameters too?

For the time, i'm looking for something cheap, like that: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXDUL8&P=7
It says that is capable of 3Ds. Anyone have this model? If yes, please, can you share with me a bit of info? :D

opjose 05-20-2008 03:31 PM

RE: Combo Find
 



PPM/PCM has little to do with the servo itself.

It is the mechanism used to transfer data to the receiver.

As far as the servo is concerned it doesn't know if the transmitter is communicating via PCM or PPM.


opjose 05-20-2008 03:35 PM

RE: Combo Find
 


PPM/PCM has little to do with the servo itself.

It is the mechanism used to transfer data to the receiver.

As far as the servo is concerned it doesn't know if the transmitter is communicating via PCM or PPM.


The UCD 46 will work fine with Standard Servos all around or you can go the recommended route and put a high torque servo on the rudder.

Digital servos are not needed with this plane.

Remember digital servos have great "holding power" which is important for larger planes with big control surfaces and prone to blow back and flutter.

I wouldn't worry about digital servos until you are into something larger than a .60+ sized plane.



Osirisf16 05-20-2008 03:42 PM

RE: Combo Find
 
Ok. I think i found my plane. Now i must communicate with my LHS that brings great planes and see what we can do for that. He also brings JR and Hitec servos. I think i will go for Hitecs, don't you think so?

piper_chuck 05-20-2008 03:49 PM

RE: Combo Find
 

ORIGINAL: Osirisf16

Hey guys, i'm trying to make a combo for a 3D airplane with good stuff on it and i have some questions. First, i think i will go for the Futaba 7C radio since it's enough for me to start. However, i have seen on a futaba 3PK some parameters about the signal speed response for the servos. The HRS, the PCM and the PPM. They told me that the PPM is for digital and analog servos, BUT the HRS is only for the digital servos and if i put an analog servo with that parameter on, then the analog servo will burn. Does the 7C has these parameters too?
The issue you found with the 3PK is real. HRS mode will burn out analog servos. However, I did a quick search of the 7C manual and didn't see any references to HRS. Analog servos are fine with either PPM or PCM mode, choose the appropriate one for your receiver.

opjose 05-20-2008 03:57 PM

RE: Combo Find
 


ORIGINAL: Osirisf16

Ok. I think i found my plane. Now i must communicate with my LHS that brings great planes and see what we can do for that. He also brings JR and Hitec servos. I think i will go for Hitecs, don't you think so?
Whatever works best for YOU.

I've used close to 130, 7.00/ea high torque CHEAPIE analog servos on many planes w/o incident.

Strangely I've had the most problems with Hitec's not that they are bad in any way... I just had 3 bad Hitecs over 12 purchased and only 2 bad "cheap" servos over 130 purchased.

In call cases I test the servos once installed, before flight...

e.g. resisting surface movement while moving the sticks, doing this with the engine running at various throttle settings ( this is how I caught the bad Hitecs ), even having other people examine my setup in case I overlooked anything ( this is how I caught the 2 bad cheap servos ).

I have yet to have a failure with a JR, Futaba or even a Hobbico servo.






Jetdesign 05-20-2008 04:06 PM

RE: Combo Find
 
There are a number of U-Can-Do planes in my club, and people can't stop talking about them. They are gentle enough for a second or third low wing plane, but throw in some power and high rates and they can spin, climb, just about everything except for some pretty week knife edges (they roll over).

Everyone loves that plane, you will to.

Osirisf16 05-21-2008 12:52 AM

RE: Combo Find
 
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ORIGINAL: opjose



ORIGINAL: Osirisf16

Ok. I think i found my plane. Now i must communicate with my LHS that brings great planes and see what we can do for that. He also brings JR and Hitec servos. I think i will go for Hitecs, don't you think so?
Whatever works best for YOU.

I've used close to 130, 7.00/ea high torque CHEAPIE analog servos on many planes w/o incident.

Strangely I've had the most problems with Hitec's not that they are bad in any way... I just had 3 bad Hitecs over 12 purchased and only 2 bad "cheap" servos over 130 purchased.

In call cases I test the servos once installed, before flight...

e.g. resisting surface movement while moving the sticks, doing this with the engine running at various throttle settings ( this is how I caught the bad Hitecs ), even having other people examine my setup in case I overlooked anything ( this is how I caught the 2 bad cheap servos ).

I have yet to have a failure with a JR, Futaba or even a Hobbico servo.


Yeah, i heard that in car forum too about Hitecs. The only problem is that i never had ANY problem with a Hitec. Of course, the Hitec i'm buing aint any cheap. On the other hand, they are few compare to you. You must destroying a lot of servos, right? :D For an engine, i will definately go for an OS. And i think i will go for the 4-stroke 70AX. The 46AX is too cheap to be true i can tell. I didn't expect such prices for an airplane's engine.100 dollars for the 46AX and 175 dollars for the FL-70. My OS Vspec on my car cost me 250 euro here, that's 320 dollars for you :D

Jetdesign 05-21-2008 08:24 AM

RE: Combo Find
 
The 46AX is a dynamite engine, however for the U-Can-Do 3D the 70 four stroke is a more popular choice.

opjose 05-21-2008 11:36 AM

RE: Combo Find
 


ORIGINAL: Osirisf16


You must destroying a lot of servos, right? :D

No.

I don't understand why you would say that?

I've already listed ALL of the servos I've had problems with.

I do have over 24 planes though, which is why I'm employing so many servos... check my profile for most of the list.


Osirisf16 05-21-2008 12:57 PM

RE: Combo Find
 
Ooh [X(] That's a lot of planes dude. And they all safe? Congrats:D


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