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Garavi 06-20-2008 04:43 PM

Fast 3 or Flying fish?
 
Could you tell me which one is better?It will be my first rc plane.Thank you

CGRetired 06-20-2008 05:11 PM

RE: Fast 3 or Flying fish?
 
Do you have more information for us.. like who makes it and where can we see them (on line).

Nathan King 06-20-2008 05:20 PM

RE: Fast 3 or Flying fish?
 


ORIGINAL: CGRetired

Do you have more information for us.. like who makes it and where can we see them (on line).
I think he's talking about these:

[link=http://www.e*****c.com/rc2chairacof.html]Flying Fish[/link] and [link=http://www.rctoys4us.com/product/AR-NN-TD-RTC727]Fast 3[/link]

I simply can't give advice on these two particular aircraft because I know nothing about them, but they are not the best "training" electric aircraft on the market. Are you looking to eventually get into larger glow airplanes, or do you just want a little electric to mess around with? The answers to those questions will radically change the advice I would give you.

Campgems 06-20-2008 06:47 PM

RE: Fast 3 or Flying fish?
 
My two cents worth. Leave them in the store. My reason for saying this is that when one thing goes wrong, you have lost your full investment. The radios are not transportable to your next plane and even it it was, it is only a 2 channel. It addition it will teach you nothing about flying.

If you are interested in learning to fly, check with your local RC Club. The guys there will be more than happy to help you and some may even have some old equipemnt that they would sell you for not very much. Pick up an old Futaba Atack 4ch radio and look at GWS for really cheap receivers and servos. Throw in a nice little electric and you wil be hooked for life. When you are ready to step up, the TX is still usefull as is the batteries, receiver, and servos. With a 72mhz TX like that, you upgrade receivers and larger servos and go to nitro powered plane. These 72mhz TX's usually have a buddy box plug so the club can put an instructor with you and really teach you to fly. He'll be able to save your plane when you get into trouble. Those cheap radios don't have that ability, so if you make a mistake, you entire investment is shot. No safety net. Without a safety net, I would be collecting stamps or something else equaly booring because I couldn't fly worth a darn when I started.

Don

Garavi 06-21-2008 08:44 AM

RE: Fast 3 or Flying fish?
 
Thank you all and thank you King for links.But in Serbia RC is not very popular so we have 2-3 stores but they have just several models.This two-flying fish and Fast3 are the best electric models they have.They have several nitro models but they are very expensive for me.For example Fast 3 is 65 euros = 100 dolars and Flying fish is 45e.But nitro models are over 300e = over 450$.
I have never tried flying so I am not sure I will get serious in this sport.For now it would be just messing around,but latter maybe I get something serious.

CGRetired 06-21-2008 09:31 AM

RE: Fast 3 or Flying fish?
 
Well, Garavi, best of luck with that. It is very difficult to offer help for someone in your situation, location, and so on. The only thing you can do is pick the one that is going to be the easiest to learn on, and if it were me, I would choose the Flying Fish. It looks more like a glider than the other one, and that can get you out of a lot of trouble once you get it in the air.

Just remember battery time, and time each flight. If you lose the battery in flight, you lost everything (RC control included). So, time the flights and keep it simple. Do orbits (circles) both right and left, then ovals, then left rectangles, right rectangles, then figure eights, both left and right, and because you are flying alone (without an instructor), try to gently come in for landings.

Good luck.

JohnBuckner 06-21-2008 12:30 PM

RE: Fast 3 or Flying fish?
 
OK lets analyze this a little:

First the single motor airplane and what it says about it -

Automatic climb mode (likely indicates there is no elevator control at all)

Ingenious thrust vector control (likely just a limited rudder control)

Full function radio controller (Hogwash, it is a limited two function unit and from the other descriptions this controls throttle and limited rudder only)


Now to the twin motor airplane aero dynamically it could be a viable airplane except for one major problem, it lacks any form of aerodynamic controls at all None, nothing! What that two function radio does is provide collective throttle and differential throttle for steering. At best this a problamatical system.

The bottom line is neither are capable of your stated goal of 'seeing how I like it first'. They are barely capable of any control and they will not enable you to learn anything about flying model aircraft. They are toys and nothing more and are incapable of helping you decide anything.

A hundred euros or less is not going to accomplish what you want to do. Your money would serve that goal and help you realize the dream much better if you saved for the glow types or better electrics.


John

Garavi 06-21-2008 12:43 PM

RE: Fast 3 or Flying fish?
 
So what model you recomand to me?Maybe I can try to order it internationaly so could someone send me pm with the name of the good store.Thank you very much


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