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is this an ok starter plane?
http://www.parkflyers.com/html/gee_bee_3d.html

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In a word, no.

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Yeah, but it'll fly just once if you never flew before.

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It would be perfect if all you wanted to do is fly about the length of you arm and pick up the pieces.

I took a quick look and I do not see any planes that would be good for a trainer.



Dru.

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no, Go to a club and see if you can fly a trainer, there is a list of all the trainers at the top of the beginner section, get one and find a club and an instructor, get some stick time, but for now i would have so say NO on the gee bee, when you get some stick time, and you can fly that trainer very well then you can try out that gee bee, it will still be there,:) trust me, let me add something, get a good simulator, it doesn't have to be a $200 or $300 sim, you can ge one from nitroplanes.com for $20

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From that website this would be a much better choice:
http://www.parkflyers.com/html/begin-air.html

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ok guys i think im going with the hanger 9 mustang trainer.

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Rcdogfighter,


That is not a choice that is easy to have success with. There are better and cheaper choices. You might consider a basic .40 size trainer. It will have major advantages over the Mustang you like.
Some of the good things a trainer will give you:
1. Go slow enough for your stick inputs to catch up with the plane.
2. Will right itself into level flight if control sticks are let go.
3. Will float slow and gently into a landing when throttle is cut to idle.

It of course is your choice and really none of my business. I had this conversation with a new guy at my club this summer. He wouldn't listen, and argued with me that the H9 Mustang was the way for him to go. I pointed out the obvious differences and he only had tunnel vision on that H9 Mustang. He bought himself one and crashed it and destroyed it on his first attempt to solo it. He then bought himself a trainer and is doing very well flying it.

Good luck with your choice. What ever you do please concider a club with a seasoned instructor.

Frank

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Well, I will have to disagree with Frank. I have trained several people on the Mustang PTS and while I don't think it's the BEST trainer out there, I do think it's a viable alternative. And so do several other instructors I know.

Your best bet is to find your local club and ask who will be training you and what they suggest.

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If you will be getting an instructor the PTS Mustang might work for you. I say might because not everyone can handle it and in my opinion is a poor trainer.
If you are going it alone the PTS Mustang is a very bad choice.

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I have used this super cub with a friend and it is a very good first plane. He thought he could just go out and fly it on his own , but it broke it in two. Then I helped him fly it a couple of times and he got along great with it after that .

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HBZ7100

One guy posted he learned to fly with the super cub, but he went through four of them to do it. He live out where there was not help to be had, ya got to do what ya got to do. But if you can get some help , please do it. It will save you time and money.

good luck

sticks

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Hi!
Disagree!
The super cub has many disadvantages.
It's small (very sensitive to wind ).
It's underpowered with that ancient brushed motor.
It's very easily damaged, has flimsy wing struts and foam wing.
It has old fashion NiMH battery and radio is just a toy, 3 channel radio, not making it possible move that unit (at least no the quality of a modern Futaba or JR radio)over to another plane once you have crashed this one and want a better plane.
But...and thats important...perhaps this is what you call model flying...!? If yes... go a head! But I don't think this is the best way to start R/C flying.

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Jaka:

Exactly!

I see people show up with these at our field all the time.

The only ones who do well with them tend to already KNOW how to fly and can deal with the SuperCub's idiosyncracies.

There are small electrics that may be better suited.

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I had no problems learning on the PTS, but that said I agree with you.

An instructor is crucial for success with this plane.

However with an instructor a novice can do fairly well with it, provided that the instructor is not too quick to remove all of the training aids...

IMHO the only thing that should be changed initially is the prop.

The brakes offset the ballooning from the flaps and the droops add lift so the effects of a deadstick are not tragic.

The plane is designed so that in the first stage all of these are used at the same time. Many are too quick to pull everything off.
My instructor did not. He flew the plane first, noted that it would do better with a different prop, swapped it out and let me fly.

Now I'm instructing...

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I am a beginner flyer and the first plane I bought was the flyzone skyfly. I think it was a good idea to start on a 3 channel radio. I did not have an instructor but i made do. I might not be the best pilot but I never can find a day when there is no wind. I would say as a beginner I would not get a 3d plane.I think it would be too much to start with.

Looking at the super cub its sounds familiar to my plane, and with what jaka said. I can see how my plane is underpowered, and i dont think that its small but for a college student money was a great consideration. Im looking to find a radio to buy and they are all about $150. I can understand that this is not a cheap hobby to get into, but for me I wanted to get into this. There is no field around me so I just go to the soccer complex and fly it there. Ive crashed a few times but the plane held up.

One question that I had about the original plane brought up, the bee gee 3d, Does anyone think that would be a good plane to get into for a person in my position.

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ok guys i have a local club.
they have two guys i know that will help me learn.
my dad is ok with buying me the mustang for x-mas.
is it ok or not?

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As has been said, its not the greatest trainer but many swear by it. With a club and instructor you should be fine as long as you are careful.

Good luck and welcome to the addiction!

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Most clubs provide training and instructors ( remember though that people do this on a volunteer basis, so no one "owes" you anything...).

If you can get training and instruction via the club, you'll probably do well with the Mustang.

I've been there myself.


I would however suggest also obtaining a simulator.

At worst, FMS with a cheap USB PC controller about $20.00 from Nitroplanes...FMS is free...

A median simulator like FS-One works too, and it features the PTS P-51 in it.

At best a high end sim ( if your computer is up to the task as you need a GOOD system... ) such as G4....


The simulator will let you practice and get orientation down, so you barely have to think about it.

This will lower the likelyhood of a crash later, and speed up your at field training.


The instructors will help you trim out and do final preparation on the plane.

Then they will help you to keep from crashing it.


Note: Standard trainers are more forgiving than the PTS, so anything you can do to offset this ( e.g. the sim ) helps.


I would talk to the instructor(s) FIRST at let them know what you are thinking of doing.

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The upside of the PTS is that once you are done with it as a trainer, it is a GREAT "sports" plane which you will not tire of.

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These are the people who you should be asking if its OK or not. They will be the key to your success. Do not buy anything without their imput especially the type of trainer used but if they suggest the PTS then you should ask if they have any experiance with the airplane.

John

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There is nothing wrong with the P-51 PTS. My wife has one and loves it. It is just rather non-traditional and there are people in this hobby who are not comfortable with it. But I've trained my share of people and I've flown the P-51 PTS and I say if you want to learn to fly with it you can. It merely takes an instructor who will accept that it really is a trainer.

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ok im not exactly sure but i have an idea of what to buy.

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Don't buy it YET, talk to the instructors FIRST.

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Dittos

Don,t buy anything untill you have talked to the folks that are going to be the most responsible for your possible success - that is your instructor/mentor.

John

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please talk to the instructors, even if they say no, get what they advise, it'll make your training much easier and ooohhh such much more fun,

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Ditto, talk to the instructor before buying anything.