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unknown25 11-27-2008 06:05 PM

I dont know?
 
OK, So i have been practicing on my E-Sky flight simulator for a couple hours now ad im really good at taking off and flying but im not so sure about the landings yet (I think i am pretty good at landing) so i think im gonna keep practicing my landings!!!

I am also afraid of once i try my real rc plane, im afraid i might have been using all the controls on the flight simulator backwards!!! and everything will be the other way with my real plane!!! I guess theres only one way to find that out and that is to actualy try it!!!

Anyways if you guys got any tips on flying and landing... please tell me!!!

JohnBuckner 11-27-2008 06:24 PM

RE: I dont know?
 
Trying to teach yourself how to fly with or without a simulator is difficult enought but using a simulator with the wrong control mode from what you will be flying is a recipe for disaster.

What airplane do you have and what tx stick mode will you be flying? In other words what stick does what on your tx and what stick does what on your sim?

John

jetmech05 11-27-2008 06:26 PM

RE: I dont know?
 
get an instructor to help you...go to the local field and seek out help.....this is a great hobby...I still get a thrill when I land...but this hobby can be a real unforgiving bit** if entered into wrong.......good luck Good Flyin to ya

unknown25 11-27-2008 06:31 PM

RE: I dont know?
 
I bought the RC 3 Channel J3 PiperCub that is on sale, It has a really wierd transmitter ( go to nitroplanes and under 3 channel airplanes and you will see the yellow j3 piper cub, theres some pics of the plane and the transmitter in there) and i bought the E-Sky flight simulator!

JohnBuckner 11-27-2008 06:45 PM

RE: I dont know?
 
OK lets try to figure out what you have with a simple three channel airplane like that does the transmitter have a single stick that controls the rudder and the elevator, or are the rudder and the elevator controlled on two separate sticks.

What we need to know is what each control on the Tx does and which direction is it moved to move which conrol surface which way. And, is this different than what you have on that Sim.



John

unknown25 11-27-2008 07:40 PM

RE: I dont know?
 
OK, it has 1 stick, it goes, up = elavator up
down = elavator down
left = elevator left
right = elevator right

All im really wondering is, when i push the elavator up on my real airplane transmitter which way does the plane go? (im guessing up)
and when i push rudder left on my real airplane transmitter the plane will go left?

if thats so than i got it all figured out!!!


And on my simulator it is a 4 channel which i dont need to use cause i have a 3 channel but on my simulator it is pretty much all the same so nevermind!!!
THNX for your help!!!

Dorsal 11-27-2008 08:50 PM

RE: I dont know?
 
The controls of a RC transmitter are actually a simulation of the full-scale controls of an airplane.
When flying full-scale, you PULL the elevator back toward you (down) to PULL the nose UP.
Pushing left on the rudder will turn the nose of the plane toward the left.
Pushing left on the aileron will roll the aiplane toward the left (left wingtip will go down.
Pushing the throttle forward (UP) will raise the throttle (higher rpm.)

You want to set your radio to do the same, so that when you get a chance to fly a full-scale airplane, you will already "know" how the controls move.

JohnBuckner 11-27-2008 09:09 PM

RE: I dont know?
 
Like dorsal said it is standard in mode one and two, for up the stick is pulled down toward your belly or the bottom of the Tx. Hard to tell but it sounds as though you have this backward.

John

hogflyer 11-27-2008 11:48 PM

RE: I dont know?
 
I had a student last spring who self taught himself on his flight sim. When he started flying my trainer he kept nosing the plane down in every turn. I found out he learned with the elevator reversed and it took a good dozen flights to train him to pull back on the elevator stick to go up, not push it forward (he tried to get me to reverse my elevator so he could fly the way he had learned [sm=spinnyeyes.gif]- that didn't happen!).

I highly recommend correcting the elevator on the flight sim and fly the heck out of it so you get the muscle memory ingrained before you start flying the model (with the elevator set properly). If you let somebody else fly it with a reversed elevator who knows how to fly....I'll let you imagine the end result.

Hogflyer

jetmech05 11-28-2008 03:27 AM

RE: I dont know?
 
I know you have a 4 channel sim..that doesn't fly like the real deal...and you have a 3 channel airplane.....get yourself an instructor

Witterings 11-28-2008 06:59 AM

RE: I dont know?
 
Won't make any difference if your Sim is 4 channel and your plane 3 that's exactly how I learnt, I also didn't know which sticks should move what and had them set up wrong for the 1st week and then had to learn a second time to get it right.

The E-Sky Simulator should be the FMS software, open it up and on the menu on the top click controls and then analogue control on the drop down box. In the interface menu highlight joystick interface and click on mapping / calibration.
In the menu that opens from top to bottom in the channel boxs the numbers should be 4 2 1 3 and then again for Heli's 4 2 1 3, in the next line down under Inv all of the boxes should be ticked and that should be set up properly for mode 2 which is probably the most common and what your J3 is.

When you then go to the plane the left stick up (away from you) should increase throttle.

The right stick pulling it back towards you the rear of the elevator should lift which will cause the plane to climb and the reverse if you push it down, if you move the stick to the left the rudder should deflect to the left and the plane will turn left and vica versa.

On the simulator you'll be turning with ailerons which will be in the same place as the rudder on your actual plane ie on the right stick, this is so you get used to turning with the same stick so it's not confusing when you go from 3 to 4 channel using ailerons to turn instead and is meant to be like that !!!

You'll find landing the Sim is harder than the real thing, make sure you've loads of space as you'll probably overshoot, on your first flight practice as though you're going to come in to land to help get the feel but increase the throttle and accelerate away again a coupe of times, make sure the planes got a straight line towards where you want to land bring it in and down slowly, decreasing the throttle will also help the plane loose height as it has less light!

If you don't understand any of that let me know and I can fill in the gaps.


Stick 40 11-28-2008 09:12 PM

RE: I dont know?
 
You'll find landing the Sim is harder than the real thing,


Not sure I can agree with this, I have never heard of anyone being able to land or take off a real RC plane easier than the Sim's. I just trained a guy and he thought he could start taking off and landing because he could do it on the sim's. But when it came to his first RC trainer , he found it was a lot faster and harder than the sim's.

I will also say , try and get a instructer to help you get started and set the plane up right ( strighten the sim out also, it will help you ).

skip1320 11-28-2008 09:24 PM

RE: I dont know?
 
sorry wrong thread

Witterings 11-29-2008 03:02 AM

RE: I dont know?
 


ORIGINAL: Stick 40

You'll find landing the Sim is harder than the real thing,


Not sure I can agree with this, I have never heard of anyone being able to land or take off a real RC plane easier than the Sim's. I just trained a guy and he thought he could start taking off and landing because he could do it on the sim's. But when it came to his first RC trainer , he found it was a lot faster and harder than the sim's.

I will also say , try and get a instructer to help you get started and set the plane up right ( strighten the sim out also, it will help you ).
Taking off was a lot easier on the Sim than the real deal, but when you're learning you fly a lot further out generally and on a small screen made it hard to judge exactly where the plane was and speed and just found I was landing my SuperCub easier than what at that time was a dot on the simulator and hard to judge it to land at perfectly at your feet where you could easily see it. I did start flying a plane in a huge area which I'm sure made it easier as well as I didn't have to pin point it onto a small runway and the Super Cub does just float down.
Now I fly 3D planes 3 ft out on the Sim it's simple even if you want to harrier land.


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