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Was going to buy a Cub as my next kit but my trainer is a top wing and I like to try something diffrent. Looking for something between a 40-60 size I want it to look like a plane unlike my trainer. I like a lot of parts not solid balsa tails, I don’t want to spend over $200.00. A wing span over 50” under 70” something nicer looking that a square fuselage. I have all summer to build it while I learn on my trainer so I would like a large kit but not a giant scale.
Thank’s Bill

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I wouldn't suggest a Cub for your second plane, this model is difficult to take off and land, and you need to perform perfect coordinated turns up in the air :) or just try to.
I think you still need to learn how to handle taildraggers, a different model is to be choosen, of course building it as a second kit would be fun and doable, but I am not sure that will be what you want to fly as a second plane.

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I don’t want to build a Cub I want recommendations for a second plane see my first post.

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Hy Bill,


Here is my 2nd plane. It was suggested by many people
on here and at my club.

Bob

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nice plane but I want it to look like a plane

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I understand, maybe something like this
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&P=SM&I=LXTXE1

is what your looking for,


Bob

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thank's but I want a kit not any ARF or RTF maybe somthing like this http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...8&I=LXHU86&P=K

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Wzak,

You might take a look at the Easy Sport which has a shoulder mounted wing. A good second airplane after a trainer capable of doing most basic aerobatic maneuvers pretty well. Another choice would be a Tower Kaos which is a step above the Easy Sport in capability, a good flier.

In modeling there are a lot of airplanes which don't look like a full scale aircraft but fly very well. Most scale type models do not fly all that well in comparison to a model designed from the ground up. That is because of problems trying to scale the full scale down to where it will actually fly as a model, ie. weight issues, wing/airfoil design, wing loading, and so forth. Many so called scale models are really a look alike version of the real thing in most cases standoff versions where it mostly resembles the full scale.

My suggestion would be to get a good flying model and not worry too much about how it looks compared to full scale aircraft until your ready to try scale model building. Attempting to fly an airplane that does not really perform well and has poor flying characteristics takes a lot of the fun out of the hobby.

Good flying!

Steve

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Whoa! That's a big build for a novice builder.

Tackle something a little easier to get some more building experience before you go there.

The best one I can suggest is the Goldberg Tiger II (or Tiger 60 - whichever you have the engine for)

It's a good build and a fantastic second plane.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&P=SM&I=LXDJC9

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thanks

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I 2nd the Tiger 60. I have one and I call it my Cassius Clay plane "floats like a butterfly, stings like a bee" I would not attempt to build a warbird until I was a very good flyer, and, builder.

I was going to call it my Muhammad Ali plane but I didn't know how to spell it.:D:D:D:D

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If you want a second opinion, I'll second that one. The Goldberg Tiger series (Tiger II, Tiger 60, Tiger 120) are some fine looking planes as well as great flying, very forgiving planes.

You might go for that one, mainly because it is a good looking (in your words.. looks like a plane ;) ) and all three are solid builds. My second was a Tiger 60, but it was an ARF. Several in my club have experience with the Tiger II and Tiger 60 kits, though, and all their experiences were very positive.

Minnflyer made a good recomendation. You might want to take a close look at that one.

CGr.

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Morning CG, Back in the Garden State are you? Raining crazy here, can't take the Tiger 60 out today.

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Sounds like the [link=http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAEY0&P=0]Great Planes RV-4 40 Sport Kit .40-.52,54.65"[/link] could be just what you'd like. Tail surfaces are stick build, and the ailerons are built-up instead of solid balsa, the fuselage is not box-shaped, and looks like a real plane.

You didn't say whether you wanted low or high wing but I really like this one.

Here's the manual for it, check it out
http://manuals.hobbico.com/gpm/gpma0180-manual.pdf

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I like the RV-4 downloaded the manual it is almost exactly what I was looking for, the Tiger was a little to simple to build I need something more challenging.
Tank’s Steve

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While the RV-4 is an nice flying plane, I wouldn't recommend it as a second plane. It is very aerobatic and can be a bit more to handle than some moving up from a trainer. While I would recommend this as a 3rd or 4th plane, I wouldn't recommend it as the next step up from a trainer.

If you look at my list of recommended planes I have several kits on there that are outstanding second plane. You can find that plane here; [link]http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4537845/tm.htm[/link]

I have to echo what others above have said, the Tiger is a great kit to build and a fantastic flying plane. Another one in that category would be the Sig 4-star as well. Either plane is a great next step from the trainer. They are good building kits and both fly fantastic.

Ken

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A "simple" building plane is what you need to look for in your first kit. Just like flying building is a skill that you must work to improve on. Start with an easy building kit and work your way up to more advanced kits like the P-47 you suggested above. You will build skills and improve you building ability as you move up to more advanced kits. But starting on a kit that is too advanced for you is one sure way to turn you off from kit building forever. But it you start off with easy kits that are fun to build you will develop a love for this aspect of the hobby that may well last for a lifetime.

Ken

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It may only be simple if you don't build it (right,well, etc.) I built mine from a kit and it took awhile to make sure every thing was as it is suppose to be. Funny, the better you build it, the better it flys.

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I built the G.P. PT-40 MKII

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what about this http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...XJ576&P=K#tech

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That's a good building kit and a great start in building planes. But I still wouldn't recommend the RV-4 as a second plane. If you wanted to build it you could do so and fly it after your intermediate trainer (2nd plane). Maybe you could pick up the Tiger II or SIg 4-star ARF for your second plane if you wanted to go that route.

Ken

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Yea, the Super Sportster would be a good choice. It's a little advanced, but not too bad.

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I was just going to suggest this one. I like the looks of this one a lot, and it does state that it makes a good 2nd plane. But I believe it has solid balsa tail surfaces which is what you didn't want. But how it is built up is not as important as being able to fly the plane after a trainer. I would recommend this one.

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Like Minn said, it might be a bit advanced. However, if you can get a experienced pilot (or your instructor) to go out with you, or buddy box you, for the first few flights you'll be fine with it. The Super Sportsters have been around for a long time and they are great flying planes.

Ken

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There is something to be said in building a simple kit for the first attempt but, the kit I'm building is my first and it is a Dash 5 pattern ship. These kits never came with a manual, and everything on the plans is in Japanese. Can't say that does me any good but I'm having a blast with this thing. Talk about a challange!

So having said that, if you have the desire to be challanged.......and if you have someone you can ask questions of when needed.......I say go for it.

I've learned so much over the past few months working on this thing. Many things I probably wouldn't have done if I had known better but at the same time, I can put all that I've learned to good use the next kit. Even if this thing pile drives into the ground on it's maiden, I'll be glad that I took the time to do it.