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FlyingViking 05-26-2009 07:37 AM

Rudder - so different between models
 
I have a foamie Cessna 182. (Art-tech)Its very sensitive to rudder input, and stalls very easily. I have been trying out different aiplanes on RealFlight G4.5. The rudder performs very different one the various models, all high wing btw.

Some just turns and turns, with no stall, like The Citabria and the FlyZone Cessna. Others stall very fast.

What can i do to my Cessna 182 to make less prone to stall during a turn?

HighPlains 05-26-2009 08:09 AM

RE: Rudder - so different between models
 


A model is more sensitive to rudder input the slower it flys.  The center of gravity balance point also tends to make a model more touchy to rudder as the balance is moved back.  However, with your C182, it sounds like it may be rather underpowered, slightly tail heavy and perhaps too much rudder.</p>

FlyingViking 05-26-2009 08:17 AM

RE: Rudder - so different between models
 


ORIGINAL: HighPlains



A model is more sensitive to rudder input the slower it flys. Thecenter of gravity balance pointalso tends to make a model more touchy to rudder as the balance is moved back. However, with your C182, it sounds like it may be rather underpowered, slightly tail heavy and perhaps too much rudder.</p>
Well, I think you are spot on there, HP. ItIS underpowered, and I also think it is tailheavy and set for too much rudder.

Thanks for the input, you have made me confident that my suspiscions are correct.

I will try to correct things, and "report" back.

MinnFlyer 05-26-2009 08:37 AM

RE: Rudder - so different between models
 
It's not so much the rudder as how the basic configuration of the airframe RESPONDS to rudder input

brainox 05-30-2009 03:47 PM

RE: Rudder - so different between models
 


ORIGINAL: FlyingViking

I have a foamie Cessna 182. (Art-tech)
is it Art-tech or [link=http://www.twift.com/RC%20Toys%20&%20Hobby/Cessna%20182%20Skylane%20-%204%20Channel%20RC%20Plane.html]Skyartec..?[/link]

FlyingViking 06-01-2009 05:28 AM

RE: Rudder - so different between models
 


ORIGINAL: brainox



ORIGINAL: FlyingViking

I have a foamie Cessna 182. (Art-tech)
is it Art-tech or [link=http://www.twift.com/RC%20Toys%20&amp;%20Hobby/Cessna%20182%20Skylane%20-%204%20Channel%20RC%20Plane.html]Skyartec..?[/link]
It is Art-Tech. But the planes are quite similar as I understand it.


brett65 06-01-2009 09:28 AM

RE: Rudder - so different between models
 
On short tail moment planes (short distance from tail to wings) the rudder will have more effect basically because it is pushing less airplane around. The citabria/decathlon has a lot of rudder authority and can get you in trouble if you're not easy on it.

opjose 06-01-2009 11:38 AM

RE: Rudder - so different between models
 


ORIGINAL: FlyingViking

What can i do to my Cessna 182 to make less prone to stall during a turn?

Use Ailerons.



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