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hi guys, I'm ready to go for my next plane and I'm not sure if I'm thinking on the right stuff, I'm thinking on a world models Zero 60 with either a thunder tiger F75s or a magnum XL70... what do you guys think? which engine would better fit on this plane? isthis theproper size for this plane? any advise would be very appreciated</p>

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The plane manufacturer suggests a .60 size two stroke. In my opinion, anything less than a .90 four stroke would be underpowered. The plane weighs 7.5 lbs.

[link=http://airborne-models.com/html/productdetails.asp?ProductID=30]TWM Zero .60[/link]

I would do a search of the plane on this site and see what other people are using, just to be sure a .90 four stroke would fit.

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If this is your 2nd airplane, and there should be a good probability of that as you're posting in the Beginners Forum, I'll bet you're not planning to do much 3D or such with the sucker. ;)

Most of the 60size ARFs I've done in the last few years have been about 7.5 pounds ready to fuel. For a learning pilot, having a thumper pulling up front won't do you any favors. Contrary to popular belief, fatal crashes are almost never avoided with a burst of power. As a beginner, you actually are better off not having more power than recommended.

I've been flying a Tiger60 and a Sukhoi31 for the last year with sort of a musical chair engine swap going on. They've had 61FXs awhile and 75AXs awhile, not necessarily in any order or pattern. Your choice of 70/75 engines for the Zero should give you a decently powered model that you'll develop some more skills with.

The Zero is a cool looking model in the air. I'd bring my 50size P40 out if we flew at fields that were closer together. The 60size F4U would be a good choice too.

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You have posted on the beginners forum, and if the "next plane" is your second model, it's probably not a good choice. What is your experience level? That information may help you get good advice.;)

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well.. you guys are correct, Ibeleive Iforget to tell you how much experience Igot... I've been flying for three years now and this would be my third plane, the second one was a cherokee 40; I dont use to do so much stuff with my planes, just sport flying. so what you guys think? is it a good time for my first warbird?

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At my club, I can recall a member who built a Top-Flite Giant Mustang, detailed right down to the rivet details, and a top-notch paint job. I believe that is his third plane. Before that, he has flown a Sig Four-Star. He has been in the hobby for the last couple years, and has accumulated quite a bit of flying time. So, I don't think the Zero would be an unrealistic goal as a third plane. Do keep in mind that it will likely have higher wingloading, and a higher stall speed than your Cherokee. Will this also be your first taildragger? If so, then you might appreciate some help from a buddy with warbird experience on your first takeoffs to minimize the risk of a ground loop, or getting airborne too early and tip stalling. His advice may also help you avoid the flipper landings and bad-approach cartwheels that these planes can be susceptible to. Once you get used to all that, you're good to go!

NorfolkSouthern

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and what about the engine? do you still think the TT 75 would be a good choice if I only want to do sport flying? I saw somewhere on the internet about a 60 size trainer and the specs stated a 70 four strokes engine would fit, that's why I metioned those engines at the begining

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A .70 or .75 4-stroke will fly the plane. I'd personally go with something in the .90 range though. I've seen this plane with a .91 4-stroke and it performed great but not overpowered.

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Honestly, I would say that you would want a larger engine if you want a 4S. I would choose at least a 91 4S engine. The plane weighs 7.5 pounds and calls for at least a .61 2S engine. Also, what elevation is Durango? If it is above 2000 feet above Sea level, the extra engine may help you out more.
Good Luck,
Curtis

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Trainers have much less wing loading and the flat bottom wing makes the plane 'floaty' so they don't need as much power. With 3 years of experience I think you will appreciate a .90 four stroke. You don't have to use all the throttle, and you can use the engine down the road in a bigger plane if you wish. It stinks to have a plane, buy a new engine, and wish you had more power and wanted a different engine.

This is a hobby, so do what makes you happy. If you want the minimum amount of power, get the .70. If you want a little extra, get the .90.

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ok then I'll go for the 90 size engine; and what do you think about magnum engines? I found the XL 91 in  only US$200 that's a very good price for a 4S engine

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I've had one Magnum 2-stroke and two Magnum 4-strokes. All were good. Maybe not on par with a nice OS or YS engine but still more than good enough and outstanding if you consider the low price.

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Engine choice is one of those things people either have a love or hate relation with. I'm not a big Magnum fan but you will find others here that think they ar the greatest thing going. The price of these engines make it a great buy but if money isn't a big problem you may want to look at OS and Saito for a first four stroke. Look and see what other pilots in your area are using and ask questions, having others that can help you out with problems is a big help with a new engine.

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You can get a Thunder Tiger .91 four stroke for $218. Scroll down the page [link=http://www.radicalrc.com/shop/?shop=1&cart=3146453&cat=6]here[/link]. They have a better reputation than Magnum, and if I were going to buy a new four stroke, which I might, I would be looking at a Thunder Tiger for a quality bang-for-the-buck option.

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well thanks a lot for all your comments, I have a better picture of what I need, hopefully, I'll be posting some pictures of my Zero very soon ;)

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Just my 2 cents, but I've just finished a Hanger 9 P51-D. A friend in my club suggested a Saito 100 (same size at an OS91 but with a little more punch). The plane came out at 8lbs 5 ounces, probably because I added on-board glow and a second battery pack just for the on-board glow. The point is that the Saito does a great job of pulling this plane. I know they are pretty expensive engines, but it runs great and does give me an extra 500-700 RPM over the OS 91.

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<span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US" lang="EN-US"><p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US" lang="EN-US">I definitely would like to get a Saito but my pocket is a little… hmmm… uncooperative at this moment; however, I just got good news from a hobby shop near me. They have an OS 91 (surpass I guess) in 259 USD shipment and taxes included. So I guess that’s my best option so far.</span><span style="mso-ansi-language: EN-US" lang="EN-US">

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I would totally get the OS!!

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<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US" lang="EN-US">guys I just ordered my new engine, OS 91. Hopefully it will be arriving tomorrow. but now I have a problem, I'm now thinking on a top flite P-51 Mustang, same engine size but with a more scale look. what you guys think? too much for my third plane? </span></p>

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i have one and it runs well, had a problem with it skipping a cam tooth, but i sent it into magnum and had it back in two weeks free of charge, its been running great ever since (i never had a deadstick before i sent it in, it just wasnt making much power)

i would buy another one in a heart beat, its one reliable and powerful engine. it only weights a little more than the .70 (1.4 oz if i remember correct).

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Is it [link=http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXTDF5&P=0]this one?[/link]

Again this is my personal opinion, but I would not put a .91 four stroke in a 8.75-10lb airplane. I would go with the max recommended size of 1.20. These planes need speed.
Congratulations on your engine purchase by the way.

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yeap, that's the chosen one http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/js/f...unge_smile.gif regarding the engine size, Isaw the review that MinnFlyer made about this plane, and he states the OS91 would be the "ideal" choice for this plane, maybe Ican give it a try and see if Ineed more power... but let's say the engine is not a problem, let's say that Ican get the 1.20... do you still think thiswould be a good option for me?

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Minnflyer sure does do a nice review. If you like the way the plane flew in the review the .91 should be just fine.

I can't comment on which plane is a better flying plane for a third plane, however I can comment that Top Flite and/or Tower Hobbies is a much better choice for buying an airplane.

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US">well Ireally liked how this plane performed on the review video, I think Iwould only do the half of the things done on that video, so Iguess it should be fine for me... Now&hellip; my new engine just arrived a few moments ago and I'm a little confused, looks like Igot the older version of the 91 surpass, it has the silver valve cover and not the black or blue one; am Icorrect? Is it the older version? it arrived with a instructions sheet instead of the instructions book that normally comes with the OSengines (at least with the LA engines that Ihave) I'm wondering if Ican get a more detailed instructions, i. e. there is a nipple at the bottom of the crankcase and there is nothing about it on the instructions, this is my first 4S engine and I have no idea what it is for!! Ican't find any information on this model so Iguess it is already discontinued. Other than that, it seems to be a pretty good engine; I can&rsquo;t wait to fire it up!!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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The nipple on the bottom of the crankcase is the crankcase breather. It allows excess oil to drain from the crankcase. Connect a piece of fuel tubing to it and route it outside the cowl to let the oil drain out.

Ken