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rlipsett 03-19-2010 03:22 PM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 
he is in boston mass

NChakmakian 03-19-2010 03:28 PM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 


I've purchased a glow clip (and battery), a fuel pump, a chicken stick, the transmitter, receiver, and new servos.  I think I'm all set (as long as the engine turns over).  So here's another question on my mind...so say I do get the engine kicked over; how does it turn off?  If I release the throttle, will the engine simply stall out?  I love that all of you are answering so quickly.  I'm beginning to feel like buying a plane that I needed to do all of this work to is just what I needed to learn all of this stuff, otherwise, I wouldn't have any idea how the mechanics work.  Maybe a blessing...</p>

carrellh 03-19-2010 03:31 PM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 
Most glow engines will shut off if you close the throttle completely.

carrellh 03-19-2010 03:34 PM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 
It's Friday afternoon and my boss is on vacation with her kids (spring break) so I'm "working" while browsing RCU.

opjose 03-19-2010 03:39 PM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 


ORIGINAL: NChakmakian

I'm thinking of going with this combo kit for the transmitter and receiver. The next question is; do i need to be looking at specific servos to go with this receiver?

If so, again, i need some help. How can i tell they are compatible?
Consider VERY VERY carefully your choice of radios.

Whatever you buy now will force you to stay on that path for a LONG time.

2.4gHz receivers will ONLY work with transmiters made by the same manufaturer.

The only current exception to this are receivers made by JR and Spektrum.

These two brands belong to one company, so the equipement marketed as such is interoperable. JR stuff works with Spektrum, and vice versa.

After you have a 2.4gHz receiver, you'll want to purchase another for your next plane, from the same manufacturer, so you can use your transmitter.

Later you'll own a few 2.4gHz receivers and you'll want to upgrade your transmitter, so you'll try to stick with that manufacturer so that you can use what you own.

So you're now somewhat stuck on this path.

If need be, save up some cash for a computer controlled transmitter.

One good transmitter will last you and service many planes. One cheap one will be tossed out in favor of something better.


tonyL1 03-19-2010 06:09 PM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 
if on a budget, a Futaba 4channel Skysport is good very basic radio, Even though I outgrew mine, I still use it a lot on a couple of planes, like my slowstick and top flite elder .25 , also the radio has a trainer cord port for learning with a instructor

Tommygun 03-19-2010 08:27 PM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 
You can actually buy adapters for your servos to convert the old 3 pin (Futaba G) to the more modern setup (Futaba J, JR, Spektrum, Hitec, etc). http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXH449&P=0 However, at nearly $8, they're not a bargain, as you can buy new standard servos for $10. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXUK84&P=7. So if you keep your current setup but upgrade, you'll need to drop $200 for a new radio, then hope the engine doesn't give you any problem. If it's worn out or abused, plan on spending another $60 for a new one of those. This bargain deal is adding up fast. If I were you, I'd give serious consideration to reselling the plane, then opting for a more user friendly RTF foam electric like the $180 Hobbyzone Cub LP http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HBZ7300 or if you can swing it, the more feature rich Eflite Apprentice (comes with a full range, 4 channel 2.4 radio that you can bind to other models as you get more experience) http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=EFL2725 They come with everything you need, you don't need to mess with fuel, ignitors, starters, field boxes, etc. Very user friendly if you don't have any experience with R/C flying. Glow power for smaller models is dying, so you may want to consider starting off with e-power. I'll probably get flamed really bad for saying that, but it's the future of the hobby, like it or not.

aiongold 03-20-2010 01:12 AM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 
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carrellh 03-20-2010 11:15 AM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 
This "aiongold" has eight identical SPAM posts. It appears they have already been reported to the moderators so they'll probably ban the ID today and remove the spam.

Jim_Purcha 03-20-2010 01:45 PM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 
Page sixteen of the manual references AM frequencies in the 72 bandwidth. I used 72.080 30 years ago.

Jim

ORIGINAL: RCKen

Ok, I'm looking at the manual for this radio right now ( http://manuals.hobbico.com/fut/3fn-4...6fn-manual.pdf). I'm having some serious doubts about even being able to use this radio because of it's age. I can't tell exactly how old this radio is but from the illustrations in the manual we're talking about a few years back. There could be problems using this radio if it's older than the 90's when they made a requirement for all radios to be narrowbanded. If it's not narrowband then it's illegal to use this radio in the US.

Ken

koolkrabber47 03-20-2010 07:14 PM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 
AND THE FLAMING STARTS,NOW.....as a flyer of both nitro and electrics, i don't ever think either one of them will ever go away......just like airplanes and helis have to get along at the field, so do blow dryers(electrics) and slimers(nitro)......we're all in this together and we're all in this for the long haul......as i fly both, if i were at the field and a newbie needed some help, gues what, i'm gonna him, without giving him a rash of S**T.......at the field, glow and electric have to get along, young and old have to get along, PRO A.M.A and anti-A.M.A. should be able to find middle ground. too, or else just leave the opinions at home and just come to fly........THERE.....now that i'm done, i'm pretty sure it's my turn to get "FLAMED"......SORRY, but the NORTH v/s SOUTH gets soooo old after awhile and it sets a bad example for the newbies........we're all RC BRO's and like the saying goes, "THERE'S STRENGTH IN NUMBERS", should prevail, even in RC......hope this "pep rally" will help draw us all closer together......take care.....(KOOLKRABBER47).........

NChakmakian 03-21-2010 07:31 AM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 
I've got another basic question regarding the throttle.  The throttle in the engine has a range of movement from the 8 O'clock position (toward the back of the plane to the 4 O'clock position (toward the front of the plane).  Remember, I haven't started the engine yet, so I'm just trying to get my bearings here.  Which direction is "throttle up" and which is "throttle down?"  Also, do I want the throttle in the 6 O'clock position while it's idling?

The engine is a Tower Hobby .4.

Thanks again everyone!

ARUP 03-21-2010 08:21 AM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 


ORIGINAL: NChakmakian

I've got another basic question regarding the throttle. The throttle in the engine has a range of movement from the 8 O'clock position (toward the back of the plane to the 4 O'clock position (toward the front of the plane). Remember, I haven't started the engine yet, so I'm just trying to get my bearings here. Which direction is ''throttle up'' and which is ''throttle down?'' Also, do I want the throttle in the 6 O'clock position while it's idling?

The engine is a Tower Hobby .4.

Thanks again everyone!
Move the engine throttle lever manually to its most extreme positions. When to throttle is 'open' you will see a large opening in the carb intake. This position will be a 'max' power setting.

NChakmakian 03-21-2010 10:38 AM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 
When I move the throttle in either direction, there's nothing happening in the carb.  Sounds like something isn't right.  Is there a way to adjust the throttle so it catches the carb?  Seems like something is loose, but I don't want to adjust something I shouldn't.

NChakmakian 03-21-2010 06:05 PM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 
Figured it out.  I'm getting a little more daring with this plane.  Pulled the engine out and cleaned it up a bit - carb was sticking but I got it all freed up and now we're in business.  Still haven't tried to start the engine yet, so we'll see.  At least I won't have carb troubles when I try to fire it up.

combatpigg 03-21-2010 06:24 PM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 
The fit between some parts in our equipment has to be perfect. This can get taken for granted, but it isn't that easy to achieve if you've ever done any "one off" machine work.
Check and be sure that your throttle servo isn't trying to force the carb barrel to rotate past it's mechanical limits.

Gizmo-RCU 03-21-2010 10:30 PM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 
Following your posts it is highly suggested you find some help from someone who will mentor you thru the beginner stages, most all of us here have accepted such help. There is a lot to learn
and having ready help is the only way to survive, especially when you need to start flying! Good luck;)

rlipsett 03-22-2010 01:39 PM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 
depending on the engine you can adjust the throttle arm to be in any position. you have to make sure that the device that secures the arm to the throttle barrel is tight and doesn't slip.

NChakmakian 03-26-2010 03:36 PM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 
The radio, receiver, and servos came in and everything is working like a charm.  What is the best way to connect the servos to the arms?  Went to the LHS to see if they had something cylindrical with threds on both sides and a hole through the middle, but nothing.  What have you guys had luck with?

MinnFlyer 03-26-2010 03:43 PM

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Connect the servos to the arms?

Do you mean, connect the servo arm to the control horn? Or, connect the pushrod to the servo arm?

NChakmakian 03-26-2010 03:47 PM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 
I'm going to go with push rod.  The metal rod that connects the servo to the rudder/throttle/elevator, etc.  what's the best way to secure the two?

MinnFlyer 03-26-2010 03:54 PM

RE: [Deleted]
 
A Clevis

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXK076&P=7

NChakmakian 03-26-2010 04:03 PM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 
I do not have threded push rods, just simple metal rods.

MinnFlyer 03-26-2010 04:11 PM

RE: [Deleted]
 
Then you need to solder these to the ends of the rods

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXK087&P=7

rlipsett 03-29-2010 03:57 PM

RE: Very Basic Questions
 
you can solder the threads on one side and then make a z bend on the other. you just need to be able to do fine adjustment to the length on one side. with the threads you use a clevis screwed on to it. also make a keeper to go over the clevis to keep it shut when it is on the servo arm. A keeper is a small piece of fuel tubing that you slip over the clevis to keep it shut during the stresses of flying


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