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I started fly Airhogs a couple of years ago (I had a really good time with the Rolling Fury and flown it countless times) and then I got the Ultra Micro p51 Mustang which after about 10-15 flights, RIP. I now have the big parkzone t28 trojan but just crashed it on the Maiden Flight. Very discouraging. i ordered some spare parts, which should make it good as new.

I live in NYC and there seems to be wind all the time. usually around 10-11mph

Want to know a good plane to train on. Something that will be stable and durable and have at least 3 Ch. (I'll wait till its about 5-8mph).
I dont want something big like the t28; i feel like they crash too easily. One crash, you have to go back home to repair it.

I am looking at:

Mini Super Cub by hobbyzone
Champ rtf by hobbyzone
J-Cub by Parkzone

any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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The J-cub is a fantastic airplane. That would be the best. Parkzone is high quality, on top of the descent prices they have. The J-cub also flies very nice. I guy at my club has one, it just looked so fun to fly. I'm like you, I think these little airplane crash to easy, and you go to the field with an airplane, and come him with it in kit form. I'm all for the Cub by parkzone.

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victric

I would go with the Hobbyzone Super Cub LP. It's the lipo version and will handle the 5-10 mph winds better than any of the micro planes. The small micro planes really need to be flown indoors or dead calm days; no wind. If you have too much wind; the little micro planes don't have enough motor or weight to overcome the wind. They can get carried off by the wind if not careful and then you would come home with nothing.

The Cub is roughly the same size as the T28, but it is a top wing plane. It is more forgiving than a bottom wing plane as well. If you get into trouble (and have enough altitude) with the Cub; you can cut the throttle and let go of the "stick" and it will pretty much right itself.

It had been 25+ years since I had flown a plane and when I decided to get back into it; I started with the Super Cub (LP version not out then). After flying it for 6 to 8 months and fealing comfortable with whatever was thrown my way; I then moved back into nitro / gas planes. For $180 you can get it ready to fly. Go to You Tube and check out some of the videos on this plane. It's a nice park flyer. Just my 2 cents.

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The Parkzone T-28 is realatively small compared to your typical RC airplane and it does not crash any easier than any other plane of its type. It is just more advanced than a trainer airplane and requires a little more flying skill. While the Parkzone T-28 is fairly tame, it isn't a basic training aircraft like the full size plane it was modeled after.

I would go for the Super Cub. It is a good, basic, electric trainer form a good manufacturer with available spare parts, etc. Once you have mastered that, then revisit the T-28 and you'll have a blast.

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I know you said you wanted smaller, but frankly of all the electric trainer-types I've flown, the best flying I've seen is the Apprentice 15e from E-flight. (I think it's E-flight, it's a Horizon product anyway).

It's bigger than what you're talking about, but durable. And it really handles winds better than the smaller planes. Much better.

After that, I do like the Parkzone supercubs, but the bigger one flys much better than the mini, and handle the winds rather well.

Since it sounds like you're learning on your own, Look at the Multiplex Easy Star. The rear-facing motor means these things just bounce. I have one and used it to teach my wife to fly. I've had radio failure with it resulting in full speed nose first. I have lights on it, and crashed it the dark by being stupid. And still the thing keeps going strong. the nose isn't shaped like it used to be, but who cares, since the motor is in the back. It's bigger than any of the other options, but bounces, flys slow, and can handle high winds. I still use my as a bad-weather plane for that reason.

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MONTAGUE,


i really like the idea of the easystar. does it do loops? how many channels is it? does it have decent amount of replacement parts?

and also, can i use the Dx5e? looks like there is no BNF version of it...

THANK YOU!

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Yes, it loops easily, but it's easiler with a little dive first. You can also roll it with some work though it often winds up as a split-S. Inverted flight is doable, but we are talking about a 3-channel plane with lots of dihedral :).

You can use a DX5e, no problem. Just get a Spektrum 6100 receiver or the 5-channel Spektrum RX and you'll be fine. that's what I have in mine (I use a 9303 on 2.4ghz myself).

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have you heard of the Twin Star? it looks better with two props, but does it as stable? Also if it comes in a kit (i cant find a RTF) does it mean i have to build it/ add the RX (separately?) for the Spectrum Dx5e?

thanks

-V

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I've flown the Twinstar and it is fast. It had a pair of Evolution 36's on board. The flight duration was very short due to the very small fuel tanks, but it was fast. It landed ok, but you have to remember that it won't glide in as easy as a most mainly because.... yeah, you guessed it.. it's fast. And a tad heavy, if I recall.

CGr.

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never midn about the requirements
REQUIRES: Speed Control: Electronic
Battery: 7 or 8-cell flat
Charger: Timed or peak
Radio: 4-Channel
Servos: Four micro (2-ailerons, 1-elevator, 1-rudder)
Two Servo Extensions 12" (305mm): For aileron servos
Y-Harness: For aileron servos
Building and Field Equipment: Medium CA glue, activator, tools

But does it fly well in Wind?

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Is the DX5E a full range radio?

CGr.

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http://www.google.com/products/catal...781#scoring=tp are you talking about this? this looks electric

and the dx5e is only 5 channel i believe.

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There are 2 different models called the TwinStar. One is a glow low-wing "train trainer" from hobbico for glow power .25-.30something engines, the other is from Multiplex and looks kind of like a turboprop commuter plane (a recent AMA magazine had a neat ad/article about a conversion kit for the multiplex to make it a sea plane).

I've seen both fly at my field. I've flown the Hobbico version, but that's not the one you're asking about. I've seen 2 different ones of the electric fly, and it seems like a decent flier, but the pilots wern't the most skilled guys I know.

Anyway, to the point, I wouldn't say that a Multiplex TwinStar is a good subsitute for the Multiplex EasyStar at all. The TwinStar is harder to fly. It's almost as durable, but not quite, partly due to the increased weight and higher wingloadings that translate into higher flying speed.

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The small Ugly Stick planes are good in the wind. They are very forgiving of stalls too, but they are not foamies. Is there not a club or at least some flyers nearby that will give you some training?

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Wind, do you know what season is the windyest in NYC? and why if you know.

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The EasyStar sounds like a sweet setup for a beginner.. I'm looking for something to buy for my dad, who is a real pilot, but not so great when flying my sim, and without a buddybox I had to play hot-potato with my transmitter when letting him fly my .40 mustang at 3 mistakes high... He may prefer the cub mentioned above (I've been eyeing it in the hobby shop) since he's a real pilot and probably wants a "real plane."

One thing that may help you victric is if you are able to fly in the mornings, the wind doesn't pick up until the afternoons usually (at least in normal flying conditions, dunno about the city, or if you're flying IN the city). It may actually make a drastic difference if you've been flying in late afternoons.

Also keep in mind that you may get some wind-spells from this storm brewing off the Atlantic for the next few days.

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hi would you guys be able to recommend a battery/charger for the Multiplex easy star?

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Victric, I think that the hobbyzone Champ is very good. It is durable, and is a good flyer. That was my first airplane. I completely taught myself to fly on it. One night, it got out of range and I lost it. It rained that night and the next day. I was out looking for it, and I found it about a quarter of a mile away, in the gutter of a house. I let it dry, and it flew just as good before. I don't have any of the other planes you were talking about, but I would recommend the Champ. In a few days, I was doing loops with it and had taught myself to fly.

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For all the money you are spending on those electric planes, why not buy an Avistar 40 trainer. It comes with a 40 2 stroke glow engine and 4 channel radio pre-installed. All you have to do is glue the wing halves together, charge it, and fly it. It handles wind quite well and is fully capable of mild aerobatics, as it has a semi se-metrical wing air foil. ;)