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I had an econo-stick called the H9 Super Stick 60
It was covered with sticky back thin covering not Ultracote. I replaced all the control hardware and made it a tail dragger. I had a Super Tiger 61, a ASP 65 four stroke, and a Saito 91 on the plane at different times I had it around 6 years. I had a couple mishaps which I repaired. It was heavy but a nice flier. The unusual thin covering was never any problem. One Sunday I was flying it at the club field - thinking about how nice it was flying - Suddenly, it spiraled in and I had no control. I had been shot down by another guy turning his transmitter on. Sure was a nice plane and I had at least a couple hundred flights on it. I have a picture of it setting on a too small flight stand that I wasn't using this plane on http://origin-images.rcuniverse.com/...4/lg-35698.jpg http://origin-images.rcuniverse.com/...4/lg-35699.jpg |
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ORIGINAL: BelAirBob One the plus side, I have a Pulse 125 that is put together unbelieveably well. Just a great value for the money. My Twist60 was even better until a shorted battery pack did it in. The price for what you get is super. |
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Pretty much all of the lower end ARFs are about the same and they all have a problem or two, haven't found one any better then another in the trainers. As the planes go up in price then you will start seeing a difference. H-9 has some pretty good planes in there line up. The Pulse is just one of them. The Funtana 100 was outstanding, there new one is every bit as nice. Keep in mind, no one here really makes there ARFs, they just have there names on the box. For a good time buy a Nitroplanes.:D
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buy a Nitroplanes if you like rebuilding new planes?
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H9 has been hit and miss on its arf quality- They have used several different factories in the past and some were good and some were bad- I have their first version Tcraft and it is a total POS- the design and the build both... The new version though smaller is much better designed and built... Of course the price is pretty steep.. It is hard to keep good QC going on overseas factories, but for the prices they are getting for some the planes they should be doing a better job.
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ORIGINAL: BelAirBob I have a Saratoga. It is covered great and everything fit together perfectly. My only beef was that the wings have anhedral instead of dihedral. I could not get their customer service people interested. Their only concern was if it would fly. It flys, but maybe not as well as it should and it looks funny with the saggy wings. Many potential buyers at my field have passed on buying one after seeing mine. BelAirBob |
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I can speak from experience that not all arfs are problematic. I have several Aeroworks aircraft,and they assemble quickly and are straight. They fly well also. Try one and see if you agree!
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ORIGINAL: rcmichael I can speak from experience that not all arfs are problematic. I have several Aeroworks aircraft,and they assemble quickly and are straight. They fly well also. Try one and see if you agree! I agree, If you know what you are buying, todays ARF's are great. Some are junk and some really impress. Here is my H9 P-47 150 and my Aeroworks Extra 260 75cc with a BME 102. cheers Tim the first pic is way to big,, sorry |
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1 can of harden up will help you build your arf's!!!
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ORIGINAL: rcflip 1 can of harden up ... |
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I always spend a couple evening going through the ARF before I start building it, Going through the glue joints and replacing the nuts and bolts and screws that came with it, I have found most the time its crap! Then I prefit everything find all the centers of everything that needs to be centered and when everything seems right I start the build, Some plans say 15 to 30 hours but they always take me much longer. This all started when I built my first ARF and went through allot of what the guy that started this tread went through! Really I rather build the plane from a kit that way I know the glue is there and if the balsa is a bit shotty I can change it, And kits hardware most always seems to be of better quality then ARF's ! Kits are my favorite but am starting to look at scratch building as a choice, Looking at the tools to build!
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ORIGINAL: hairy46 I always spend a couple evening going through the ARF before I start building it, Going through the glue joints and replacing the nuts and bolts and screws that came with it, I have found most the time its crap! Then I prefit everything find all the centers of everything that needs to be centered and when everything seems right I start the build, Some plans say 15 to 30 hours but they always take me much longer. This all started when I built my first ARF and went through allot of what the guy that started this tread went through! Really I rather build the plane from a kit that way I know the glue is there and if the balsa is a bit shotty I can change it, And kits hardware most always seems to be of better quality then ARF's ! Kits are my favorite but am starting to look at scratch building as a choice, Looking at the tools to build! |
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Yes, And I forgot to mention that I do like the Hangar 9 ARF's seem to get allot of bang for the buck just have to go through them like any other before putting them together!
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ORIGINAL: warbird addict I've bought virtually every hanger 9 arf out there and bang for the buck the quality I've encountered has been very good sure the stuff might have needed a little attention here and there or my choice of motors may have steered me into a bit more work but overall IMO it beats the hell out of spending 6 months to a year gluing balsa together and sanding off everything that doesn't look like the picture on the box. Another good thing about hanger 9 , horizon, they have been jonny on the spot no questions asked with warranty replacement of anything damaged or warped out of the box and haven't even wanted the old parts back, try getting that out of the other big box hobby retailers. My only complaint with h-9 is that they will announce a new plane a year sometimes 2 in advance the minute they get shipment the stuff is gone and goes on backorder again forever if at all and then with no warning boom discontinued never to be seen again, the red bull sukhoi perfect example I bought one and before I even got the damned thing finished it was no longer available I now have 3 -33%, 1-27% , and 1-150 sized warbird from H-9 that I can't get anything for should I need to, not good For my practice airplane I realy like Hanger nines large 96" C-182. Looks nice and flys nice. That is the reason I have a extra new C-182 still in the box in case the one I am flying now bites the dust. |
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My last 3 ARFs were the Hobbico Superstar 40, the Kadet LT 40 and the Pulse XT 60. The Pulse required the most attention and I never did get the bolt down tail feather thing right.
Sorry, Ill never buy another H9 again. |
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I see some of the better ARFs mentioned but when you spend almost $400.00 on a small Aeroworks plane like there 90-120 YAK there better be a lot of quality involved, I like the Wildhare Extras a lot too. The OP was mentioneing the lower end ARFs though and I haven't seen a lot of difference between any of them. An ARF trainer is pretty much the same no mater who you buy from. There can be building mistakes in them all. H-9 makes {sells} some pretty good ARFs compared to a lot I have seen but unless you start your own then you may as well get used to finding mistakes and little problems. When I assemble and ARF for someone I know there are going to be little problems or things that need to be fixed no mater what name is on the plane. It's just a given. I'm not even thrilled with my kit and plans built planes 100%, I always find things I could have done better. Just the nature of the beast.
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whether kit building or arf bashing if you are not prepared to deal with and overcome the extra work involved in the deviation from the plans or instruction book you are going to be limited to either buying a used proven flyer or paying somebody to build your vision of a particular plane into reality.
The little pitfalls encountered with an arf pale by comparison to the amount of work necessary to accomplish the same end product with a kit built plane IMO the little stuf you have deal with on an arf are the same issues that would have to be dealt with on a kit built plane plus a hell of alot more as a matter of pride the extra work that you put into an arf or kit built plane makes it uniquely yours and for me atleast that what puts this hobby over the top and keeps it interesting and challenging, if it was boring and routine nobody would want to be involved in it me included. |
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