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02-14-2005, 01:54 PM
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Anyone lucky enough to own a Ford Shelby Mustang GT500.
This is one of my most loved cars since the film, so the film had a big part in this car making it more popular.
This is one of my most loved cars since the film, so the film had a big part in this car making it more popular.
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I don't own one, but they are cool.
Here is a link of a video of one, its the third one down on the left.. It's in AVI formant.
[link]http://gt3000.com/videos.htm[/link]
Here is a link of a video of one, its the third one down on the left.. It's in AVI formant.
[link]http://gt3000.com/videos.htm[/link]
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That guy builds those right down the road from me, maybe 15 minutes. Would like to visit his shop someday! Sweet cars!!!!
That guy builds those right down the road from me, maybe 15 minutes. Would like to visit his shop someday! Sweet cars!!!!
WOW Unique Performance is 15 minutes from you house dang!!! If i were you i would go hang out across the street. hehe lol.
The cool thing about the SuperSnake version is that Unique Performance is going to only build 75 of them, i'm pretty sure thats what Unique Perf. says.
I saw Orange County Choppers(OCC's) Supersnake at SEMA(2004) this year. Its yellow black stripes. It was trade between OCC and Shelby.
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THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SHELBY GT500!
The only Shelby Mustangs were the '66 and '67 models. And they were ALL GT350s. Carroll Shelby NEVER built a GT500.
The first GT500 cars were the 1968 models, Ford bought Shelby out effective with the end of the 1967 model year, all '68 and later GT350 cars were pure Ford products, Shelby had nothing to do with them.
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The only Shelby Mustangs were the '66 and '67 models. And they were ALL GT350s. Carroll Shelby NEVER built a GT500.
The first GT500 cars were the 1968 models, Ford bought Shelby out effective with the end of the 1967 model year, all '68 and later GT350 cars were pure Ford products, Shelby had nothing to do with them.
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that's funny to me because I have seen and driven a 1969 ford shebly gt 500.
weather Mr. Shelby had any thign to do with it or not is besides the point it says on the MFG plate customised by the Shelby CO.
and you might need to explain the adds for a 2005 shelby gt 500.
But I can't bragg that I own a shebly I only have a distant cousin
1969 Mach 1 all orignal just a little over 43 ,000 miles on her and 32 trophies to prove thats she is a winner. only been in one magazine but one's enough for me.
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weather Mr. Shelby had any thign to do with it or not is besides the point it says on the MFG plate customised by the Shelby CO.
and you might need to explain the adds for a 2005 shelby gt 500.
But I can't bragg that I own a shebly I only have a distant cousin
1969 Mach 1 all orignal just a little over 43 ,000 miles on her and 32 trophies to prove thats she is a winner. only been in one magazine but one's enough for me.
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07-15-2005, 03:01 PM
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Sorry sir. While the GT 500 you rode in may have said "...customised by the Shelby CO." it was not anything done by Caroll Shelby. Maybe some woman named Shelby Jones decorated the rear view mirror with some artistically applied finger nail polish. If Caroll Shelby had done it the legend would have said "Shelby American."
Shelby wanted out, and he got out. Part of the agreement with Ford was that his name would not appear anywhere either in the car or in the advertising beyond an reference to the "Tradition" of Caroll Shelby.
The 1968 model cars were the first that had the federally mandated exhaust emission controls, Shelby had tried to keep the performance with the emission strangled engines and the power was not there with the 289/302 engines, and he felt the handling with the heavier 428 engine was unacceptable. The 1967 GT-350 was the last of the Shelby cars.
Ford did put the 428 engine in the car, and called it the GT-500. The GT-500 with its emission controlled engine, was about as fast in a straight line as the 1967 GT-350, but on a twisty road the Shelby version GT-350 would blow the GT-500 off. The handling of the GT-500 was every bit as bad as Shelby thought it would be. And the 1968 GT-350 was a slug. Once you got the speed it would handle well enough, so long as you didn't need power to drive you through a turn.
The only Ford powered cars Shelby had anything to do with after the end of the 1967 production year was a batch of AC/Cobra 427 cars he had not been able to sell by the end of 1967, He had collected the parts to assemble them, but hadn't been able to sell them. Around 1985 or so he got the bright idea to put them together, which he did. But they were all sold as 1967 cars, that way he got around the EPA and the exhaust emission requirements.
Again sir, to repeat. There are NO Shelby Fords titled 1968 or later.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SHELBY GT-500!
Sorry.
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Shelby wanted out, and he got out. Part of the agreement with Ford was that his name would not appear anywhere either in the car or in the advertising beyond an reference to the "Tradition" of Caroll Shelby.
The 1968 model cars were the first that had the federally mandated exhaust emission controls, Shelby had tried to keep the performance with the emission strangled engines and the power was not there with the 289/302 engines, and he felt the handling with the heavier 428 engine was unacceptable. The 1967 GT-350 was the last of the Shelby cars.
Ford did put the 428 engine in the car, and called it the GT-500. The GT-500 with its emission controlled engine, was about as fast in a straight line as the 1967 GT-350, but on a twisty road the Shelby version GT-350 would blow the GT-500 off. The handling of the GT-500 was every bit as bad as Shelby thought it would be. And the 1968 GT-350 was a slug. Once you got the speed it would handle well enough, so long as you didn't need power to drive you through a turn.
The only Ford powered cars Shelby had anything to do with after the end of the 1967 production year was a batch of AC/Cobra 427 cars he had not been able to sell by the end of 1967, He had collected the parts to assemble them, but hadn't been able to sell them. Around 1985 or so he got the bright idea to put them together, which he did. But they were all sold as 1967 cars, that way he got around the EPA and the exhaust emission requirements.
Again sir, to repeat. There are NO Shelby Fords titled 1968 or later.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SHELBY GT-500!
Sorry.
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08-20-2005, 10:40 PM
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WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, there were GT-350's GT-500's and GT-500 KR's. I have a GT-500KR in the gargage and a phone book thick registry of ALL of the Shelby cars and believe me there are GT-500's in there.
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08-20-2005, 11:00 PM
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Chris:
Of course there are GT-500 cars in the registry, but not one of them was made by Shelby American. All the GT-350 and GT-500 cars from the 1968 model on were purely Ford built cars. None of them are real Shelbys, no matter whether the owners of the real ones let the Ford owners play in the sand box or not.
Only the 1965, 1966, and 1967 models were made by Shelby American. There were no 1967 or earlier GT-500 cars. Owners of all the 1968 and later cars, both GT-350 and GT-500 are just "Wanna-be" Shelby drivers - their cars are just fancied-up Ford Mustangs. A different trim package. A Mach One with a different paint job. Not a Shelby, sorry.
To repeat:
[b]THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SHELBY GT-500! [b]
Bill.
Of course there are GT-500 cars in the registry, but not one of them was made by Shelby American. All the GT-350 and GT-500 cars from the 1968 model on were purely Ford built cars. None of them are real Shelbys, no matter whether the owners of the real ones let the Ford owners play in the sand box or not.
Only the 1965, 1966, and 1967 models were made by Shelby American. There were no 1967 or earlier GT-500 cars. Owners of all the 1968 and later cars, both GT-350 and GT-500 are just "Wanna-be" Shelby drivers - their cars are just fancied-up Ford Mustangs. A different trim package. A Mach One with a different paint job. Not a Shelby, sorry.
To repeat:
[b]THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SHELBY GT-500! [b]
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08-20-2005, 11:26 PM
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I had a 1967 GT-350.
Instead of the louvers on the quarters it had windows, there were scoops for coolong air to the rear brakes. These were installed on many a fastback Mustang to get the "GT" look, but when you opened the hood it was all over. the real ones had very pretty cast aluminum rocker covers, and again some people bought them for their plain 289 engines. There was also a high rise intake manifold with a big Holley on it instead of the Motorcraft carb from Ford. What none of the wanna-bes had though, was the eight quart oil pan, also cast aluminum with fins on the bottom. It stuck out to both sides of the block.
When you opened the door the sill plate, in polished aluminum, said "Shelby American" right in the middle. I never saw any of the wanna-be cars with the Shelby American sill plates. The 1968 and later cars just had "Ford" there in the ordinary Dearborn oval.
The Shelby GT-350 was one of the worst cars I ever had. It seldom ran more than two weeks without something breaking.
My wife liked it though - she got a lot of attention when she drove it. She did complain about the heavy steering with the fat tires on it. There's another thing. None of the real Shelbys had power steering.
I sold the GT-350 and got my first 250GT to replace it. A much better and more enjoyable car. Was more expensive though.
Bill.
Instead of the louvers on the quarters it had windows, there were scoops for coolong air to the rear brakes. These were installed on many a fastback Mustang to get the "GT" look, but when you opened the hood it was all over. the real ones had very pretty cast aluminum rocker covers, and again some people bought them for their plain 289 engines. There was also a high rise intake manifold with a big Holley on it instead of the Motorcraft carb from Ford. What none of the wanna-bes had though, was the eight quart oil pan, also cast aluminum with fins on the bottom. It stuck out to both sides of the block.
When you opened the door the sill plate, in polished aluminum, said "Shelby American" right in the middle. I never saw any of the wanna-be cars with the Shelby American sill plates. The 1968 and later cars just had "Ford" there in the ordinary Dearborn oval.
The Shelby GT-350 was one of the worst cars I ever had. It seldom ran more than two weeks without something breaking.
My wife liked it though - she got a lot of attention when she drove it. She did complain about the heavy steering with the fat tires on it. There's another thing. None of the real Shelbys had power steering.
I sold the GT-350 and got my first 250GT to replace it. A much better and more enjoyable car. Was more expensive though.
Bill.
10-09-2005, 06:46 AM
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Here's the nice car I got to replace the '67 GT 350. It was eight years old, in 1968 it cost $4800. All aluminum body (it was the SWB model) and the 160/4 engine with six DCN Weber carbs.
Current prices have the 250GT selling for more than ten times the most expensive of the GT Ford and Shelby cars.
I no longer have the 250GT, but I still have a 250TR "Pontoon"- third picture. But I have to admit my 250TR is about 15 inches long. The steering works, though.
Bill.
Current prices have the 250GT selling for more than ten times the most expensive of the GT Ford and Shelby cars.
I no longer have the 250GT, but I still have a 250TR "Pontoon"- third picture. But I have to admit my 250TR is about 15 inches long. The steering works, though.
Bill.
10-10-2005, 12:45 PM
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Very very nice cars mate.
I like the 250F myself
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I like the 250F myself
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Here's the nice car I got to replace the '67 GT 350. It was eight years old, in 1968 it cost $4800. All aluminum body (it was the SWB model) and the 160/4 engine with six DCN Weber carbs.
Current prices have the 250GT selling for more than ten times the most expensive of the GT Ford and Shelby cars.
I no longer have the 250GT, but I still have a 250TR "Pontoon"- third picture. But I have to admit my 250TR is about 15 inches long. The steering works, though.
Bill.
Here's the nice car I got to replace the '67 GT 350. It was eight years old, in 1968 it cost $4800. All aluminum body (it was the SWB model) and the 160/4 engine with six DCN Weber carbs.
Current prices have the 250GT selling for more than ten times the most expensive of the GT Ford and Shelby cars.
I no longer have the 250GT, but I still have a 250TR "Pontoon"- third picture. But I have to admit my 250TR is about 15 inches long. The steering works, though.
Bill.
11-23-2005, 01:33 PM
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hey william i really hate to break it to you but you dont have a clue what your talking about. Shelby started the GT-350 in 66 and in 67 he made the GT-350 and GT-500. The GT-500 had a 428 in it. In 68 He continued with the GT-350s and GT-500s.
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12-10-2005, 08:24 AM
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Shelby was still in the Venice Ca. airport hangar operation in '67 and there were GT 500's built by Shelby, with 428 CJ's... according to our local Shelby "guru" who has 5 of them. That jibes with what I've read also.
Ford didn't start making them in Dearborn (or whichever plant they decided ) until '68...
Ford didn't start making them in Dearborn (or whichever plant they decided ) until '68...
12-20-2005, 08:04 PM
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There were indeed 67 GT-500s with the Shelby American tags on them, I have driven one. There were even a couple with the almight 427 sideoiler in then for 67. 68 they were taken over by ford, and then the 69-70's were purely Ford built and not much more than a mach 1 with a fancy 'glass front end.
The story about Shelby scrounging parts and making 67 Cobras is just that a story. He admitted later that he built some chassis and let them age outdoors to make them look old. Shelby was a helluva driver and builder, but he was and is somebody out to make money!!
The story about Shelby scrounging parts and making 67 Cobras is just that a story. He admitted later that he built some chassis and let them age outdoors to make them look old. Shelby was a helluva driver and builder, but he was and is somebody out to make money!!
